Tour de France 2016 **SPOILERS**

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crisscross

Senior Member
Personally I think Quintana got away with it today. He could have lost some serious time if the incident hadn't happened.

Common sense prevailed with the decision otherwise we could see spectators become more important than the cyclists in dictating the times on the big climbs.
 

Seevio

Guru
Location
South Glos
I reckon this also answers the question of whether wheelsucking is ok on a busy road.
 

coffeejo

Ælfrēd
Location
West Somerset
He did start running with his broken bike but common sense prevailed.

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oldroadman

Veteran
Location
Ubique
Technically running without the bike would get penalised. Given the circumstances (utter shambles caused by hugely inadequate protection of the riders in their workplace by a very rich organiser) the right decisions were taken by the commissaires.
The close by runners and idiots with flags (often drunk) are a menace and add nothing, just showing their stupid egos and disrespect for the riders.
Perhaps the Gendarmerie motos could have big nasty whips attached to fairing - at face level.
Never mind a tap from a rider - 200 Swiss for shoving an idiot who is endangering your safety?? Joke.
Hinault knew what to do, whack 'em first and ask after.
The idiots get too close, scream in your ear, make themselves a complete and utter pain (as if there's not enough already!). The organisation have let this go on far too long - Alpe d'Huez has taught them nothing. Time to barrier all mountain top finishes top to bottom, treble the security people, and barrier the last 5km of every single Cat 2 upwards with double security personnel. Riders make them shedloads of money, they should think less of their profit and more about the riders who earn it for them. Without them, no race!
 

smutchin

Cat 6 Racer
Location
The Red Enclave
Blimey. I'm glad I went to the pub to watch that. Not entirely surprised to get home to find 15 pages of comments to catch up on...

If the result stands Yates is in yellow

Shame - would have been the first time three different Brits have worn yellow in the same Tour. Arguably, Yates could well have taken the yellow sooner if not for the flamme rouge incident.

I'll likely get shot down for this but what a great spectacle. There's much to be said for Mario Kart Pro Cycling.

^_^

I am full of admiration for Chris Froome. He is of the same mould as Merkcx, Anquetil, Hinault, as great champions. He is clever, intelligent and an opportunist. He can read the race and act accordingly. I think he has already won this tour and will win more. Quintana on the other hand lacks some of those qualities. He is too conservative and not as strong as we might think. He will never win the Tour.

Quintana has already shown himself to be tactically suspect again this year. And on top of that, we've had a real glimpse of his true form today. It was always a red flag that he chose to do the Route du Sud rather than the Dauphiné, and while I've been keen to give him a chance to prove himself, he needed to show some form today and wasn't able to. Clearly he isn't where he needs to be.

If they don't make any adjustment can you imagine how fired up Froome is going to be for the TT tomorrow...

Absolutely. Even if the result had stood, Froome would only have been 53 seconds down on Yates, and I wouldn't have been surprised to see him recoup all of that in the TT tomorrow. By the end of stage 17 he will have totally buried this race.

If the result stands Yates should tell them to stuff the jersey were the sun doesn't shine, to accept yellow in those circs imo would be a blight on his career.

Pffft. Unless Yates himself had deliberately caused the crash, the incident and its outcomes should have no bearing on his reputation.

It's racing, it was an incident. Stuff happens, the result should stand.

Yeah, I'm inclined to believe it should have stood, and that Froome would have gone on to win the race anyway. I get why they have changed the result, and it's probably the right decision on balance, but I don't think it's a truly satisfactory outcome for anyone, including Froome. Most of all, it's a shame the racing is overshadowed by this kind of controversy.

Good point just made on the BBC live text commentary... whilst Froome and Porte have been given the time of Mollema, had the crash not happened then the three of them would have put more time into the others

Yeah, Quintana can count himself lucky. Same as the Yates flamme rouge incident, which is why he is doubly unlucky not to have been awarded the yellow jersey today.

And in all the excitement, no one has yet mentioned that Dan Martin also found his limits today, which I'm both surprised and disappointed by.

Let's not forget waht we saw today though. We know Quintana is not on form yet and Mollema and Porte are.

Good call by @400bhp to pick Mollema. There's been nothing in his performances so far this year to suggest he would do anything in this Tour - but at the same time, he's been quietly going about his job in a more effective and intelligent way than some much more fancied riders.
 
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smutchin

Cat 6 Racer
Location
The Red Enclave
Don't think anyone has mentioned this already, but I've just seen elsewhere that the reason Froome wasn't able to ride the neutral service bike was because it had Look pedals and he uses Shimano. The only other option is a bike with flat pedals and toeclips, apparently.

I know the service bikes don't get called into use very often but I can't believe it has never occurred to them before that this might be an issue. FFS.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
Twitter says Trek Segafredo have submitted a protest against the decision. Not sure if that's true as it wasn't Trek Segafredo themselves
 
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