Tour de France 2016 **SPOILERS**

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suzeworld

Veteran
Location
helsby
Just watched Highlights .. Imlach's comment on the Tinkoff team owner's strutting was priceless: "With no reflected glory next year he'll be doing this pantomime in front of his bedroom mirror" :laugh: Very funny after the ludicrous selfy-video of him in the shower they'd treated us to earlier in the show!
 
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Oldfentiger

Veteran
Location
Pendle, Lancs
Hats off to Froome, he was attentive when he needed to be and Quintana took his eye off the ball despite he'd been tagging along in the right place all day - when it really mattered he missed the vital move. Strategically Froome played an ace today. And so did Sagan. Really happy for him, great image on the finish line ...
And kudos to Gee too.
Busted his balls to get on the back of the front three, then contributed to staying away from the chasers.
 
Location
Midlands
I think tomorrow will be very interesting

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Essentially crosswinds till they get to the mountains then predominantly headwinds
 

huwsparky

Über Member
Location
Llangrannog
I think tomorrow will be very interesting

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Essentially crosswinds till they get to the mountains then predominantly headwinds

In what way? It will suit sky having a headwind at the end as they have the strongest team, same can also be said about crosswinds. Also it will make it a lot more difficult for Quintana to attack off the front. Weather conditions to me look to be nullifying the race in sky's favour.

Cross winds can cause carnage though but I'd be surprised if sky got caught out if I'm honest.

No doubt Quintana will have to try something but I think he'll need Froome to have a seriously bad day to be affective.
 

400bhp

Guru
Please elucidate. I do not see how this does anything but help the Dawg and his team. Much easier to control just going to Reynard.

Do we know which direction the wind is forecast to be blowing tomorrow? Have to say am a little disappointed about the truncated route.

Summit finishes on HC climbs suit a very small minority of riders. They are about one hour climbs and therefore ssentially for those with the highest FTP/Kg. Both Quintana and Froome sit at the top in thic category. So, what you have is Sky sitting there at the bottom controlling it. They know no one can ride away from them. It's just maths. All the teams know it which is why you don't have GC riders going from the bottom of climbs, and when they do they get dragged back. Therefore the mind games play both ways. You get a stand off, until the point on the climb when it's about 10 or 20 minute efforts (or less) rather than one hour efforts.

What you now have is a shorter climb. It's not FTP any more, it's quite a bit less. There is more of a chance of the riders who are good at shorter efforts will suddenly believe they have a chance. Essentially, the top 8 I would say (down to Valverde). Therefore, Sky should find it difficult to control as we should see attacks from the foot of the climb.

One particular rider who is exceptional at this is Valverde. Probably the best in the world at the shorter efforts. This isn't short but it's getting that way.

Watch Mollema, he may well surprise tomorrow. He's the dark horse here in my view.
 

brommers

Years beyond my wisdom
Location
Clacton-on-Sea
If it's a shortened stage tomorrow (has that been confirmed?), why should Froome be so pleased? Twice he has beaten Quintana on Ventoux and a similar attack last year - what makes people think this year would be any different, given Froome's current strength?
 
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Flying_Monkey

Recyclist
Location
Odawa

It's rather pathetic and hypocritical. He's blaming the organisers for what was a pretty a normal Tour stage and the wind and saying that they don't care about rider safety, and at the same time, he's unhappy that they've cut the top off the Ventoux... because of the wind and rider safety.
 

EnPassant

Remember Remember some date in November Member
Location
Gloucester
It's rather pathetic and hypocritical. He's blaming the organisers for what was a pretty a normal Tour stage and the wind and saying that they don't care about rider safety, and at the same time, he's unhappy that they've cut the top off the Ventoux... because of the wind and rider safety.

Now THAT is a big chainsaw.

More seriously. Absolutely. Methinks they doth protest too much and then shoot themselves in the foot with an irony cannon.
 

philk56

Guru
Location
WAy down under
I only saw the highlights. There did seem to be a few crashes but were any of them caused by the wind? Any other teams complaining? Seems to me that it's Movistar who don't have a plan B. That's the second time they've let Froome slip away without being able to respond. And the same happened last year.

Just hope he hasn't expended too much energy for today's stage.
 
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T4tomo

Legendary Member
The forecast I saw was 45mph winds at sea level, so no question cutting the top off is the right thing to do. Wind shouldn't be a factor on the climb, they are in the forest and the wind is coming from opposite side of the hill, but it will make it interesting before they get there.
Despite it being shortened, what is left is still a tougher climb than Alpe D'Huez.
 

smutchin

Cat 6 Racer
Location
The Red Enclave
Just looking at the GC, am I imagining it or are the time gaps smaller than usual? Froome as a 28s lead but then it's just a minute covering 2nd to 10th place. Seems to be a fair reflection of the way the race is going though - only Froome seems genuinely interested in the GC so far, everyone else is being very cagey (although Yates was desperately unlucky to have his attack thwarted by the flame rouge).

I expect the gaps will be bigger after today's stage though, shortened or not.

Also, only six abandonnés so far. That's definitely unusually low. And the first one wasn't until stage 8. (Amazing that both Morkov and Contador kept going as long as they did.)
 
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