Tour de France 2016 **SPOILERS**

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Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
IIRC Desgrange hated the idea of teams altogether. He wanted lone riders duking it out mano a mano on unsurfaced roads over the mountains. On fixed gears. I think he also coined the term "domestique", as an insult to those who weren't competing on their own account but were despicably hiring out their services.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
I think it goes against the spirit and tradition a bit. If you are good enough to challenge for the top 10 GC places then surely you shouldn’t be riding for someone else.
While a big paycheck may encourage potential GC contenders to subjugate their goals for another one, their own ambition and desire for a clear place in the history books should work against that. We've already seen Simon Gerrans leave Sky to GreenEdge, Rigoberto Uran to Mega Farmers and Richie Porte go to BMC in search of leadership for GC assaults, as well as Cav switch to the Mega Farmers in the hope of more sprint support.

Or at least there shouldn’t be more than one “superdomestique” in each team. One as a wingman, sure, but surrounding the leader with riders who should be leaders of teams themselves, and not really going for any other stage wins or anything? I just think that’s against the spirit of the competition.
GC riders pretending to be superdomestiques don't usually seem that helpful: Valverde "for" Quintana, Nibali for Aru (that one seems genuine even if it's not been so effective - I assume Nibali is secure about his plans for next year), Teejay with Porte, Hinault "for" LeMond :laugh: Sky seem better at convincing them (maybe it's "do this for the team now and you will be our protected rider at a later grand tour"?) but even Froome supporting Wiggins wasn't exactly harmonious. Thomas for Froome is about the best it's been, isn't it?
 

smutchin

Cat 6 Racer
Location
The Red Enclave
IIRC Desgrange hated the idea of teams altogether. He wanted lone riders duking it out mano a mano on unsurfaced roads over the mountains. On fixed gears. I think he also coined the term "domestique", as an insult to those who weren't competing on their own account but were despicably hiring out their services.

Yeah, like I said, he was a fruitcake. ^_^
 

Mad Doug Biker

Just a damaged guy.
Location
Craggy Island
Is it just my imagination (I have only seen this occasionally so far), but are there more kids running alongside the riders now?
I don't remember seeing kids doing that, only adults, and yet, yesterday and today, I have seen one or two kids doing it.

I do wonder if they are starting getting kids to do it now so that if Froome lamps them or whatever then he'll be in deep sh*t! :whistle:
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
I know it's slightly different now as you rarely had whole teams riding in support of their GC hope back in the day, and large quantities of EPO made it a bit easier, but no one attacks Pantani style on the 2nd of 4 climbs etc.
Floyd didn't need no stinking EPO! He attacked on the 1st of 5 climbs, powered only by artificial Testosterone. "Without a shadow of a doubt, today will go down as one of the finest stages in modern Tour de France..." Errr, not exactly, CyclingNews.

I think the last rider to succeed at a bizarre long attack might have been pre-steak-test Alberto Contador, so we might have seen the last of it. I suspect some tactical innovation is possible to hinder the Sky Train method, but I doubt it's a GC contender on a long solo break.

Does Tom Dumoulin TT bike have rear brakes? I guess they are really fancy frame integrated ones.
Probably they'll be behind the bottom bracket (like in this road.cc review of a Kuota) or similar madness.
 

smutchin

Cat 6 Racer
Location
The Red Enclave
Wasn't really watching properly... was that a planned bike change by Purito just now? Swapping to a standard road bike for steeper parts of the course or something?
 
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