Tour de France 2015 - may contain nuts and SPOILERS

[smutchin]

They don't and shouldn't have to dance to the media's tune

If the doubters want to play the numbers game to try and prove doping then the only way forward is mandatory public data feeds for all riders

FM has it spot on. If they're going to release data, releasing it to a responsible, credible outlet of their choice (such as L'Equipe) is the way to do it.

Ross Tucker used to be a passive observer of the numbers, and in that capacity has had a lot to say that is of interest to cycling fans. Now he seems to have let his number of twitter followers go to his head and has become self-appointed arbiter of the truth. He may be a respectable sports scientist but he's not a credible journalist.

 

[Berk on a Bike]

Having analysed Froome's power data I've concluded he'd save some money by switching tariffs. It's really easy to do nowadays.

 

[Dogtrousers]

While I suppose it's a step in the right direction, one team releasing a selected subset of data on one rider at one point in time is not really much use to anyone other than for PR purposes. I'm sure if Lance were around now he could produce some data that would look fine, as far as it goes.

If physiological profile data were independently collected over time by an independent organisation (like WADA or something) for most/all riders then we'd be getting somewhere. A kind of passport with knobs on, maybe bit like what Brailsford is suggesting. Which would be incredibly expensive, and would have all kinds of privacy and competitive issues. And it would take a long time to become useful, as it would need to accrue history. For example it wouldn't go back and cover the crucial time of CF's metamorphosis from crappy Barloworld rider to best in the world.

 

[Hont]

You could have saved yourself the trouble. Tucker says "if we go with 71kg, halfway between his Strava-listed and team-website listed mass" Link

My question pre-dated his article.

 

[Dogtrousers]

My question pre-dated his article.

Fairy nuff.

I do wish he'd publish ± margin of error on his figures. It would make them more useful. And having spent several years having the importance of errors of measurement drummed into me, it irks me a bit.

 

[Hont]

While I suppose it's a step in the right direction, one team releasing a selected subset of data on one rider at one point in time is not really much use to anyone other than for PR purposes. I'm sure if Lance were around now he could produce some data that would look fine, as far as it goes.

100% agree with that but they had to do something for exactly that reason - PR. A team wholly reliant on sponsorship for funding can't afford to stick two fingers up to the media and the fans. You never know, it might reduce the time spent washing piss out of rider's jerseys too.

 

[jarlrmai]

100% agree with that but they had to do something for exactly that reason - PR. A team wholly reliant on sponsorship for funding can't afford to stick two fingers up to the media and the fans. You never know, it might reduce the time spent washing piss out of rider's jerseys too.

When you're in yellow already...

 

[mjr]

Is that David Millar doing the voiceover on the Samsung #RIDEFOR advert on Eurosport?

 

[Berk on a Bike]

Is that David Millar doing the voiceover on the Samsung #RIDEFOR advert on Eurosport?

Yes.

This is a longer version without Millar's voiceover but with Jensie playing DS (directeur sportif, not Nintendo)

 

[Berk on a Bike]

Unfortunate still for that video, isn't it...

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

ITV just said that they didn't have time to give the full Tim Kerrison barrage of Froome's data but that they would put it on their website. So get your calculators warmed up.....

EDIT: Ta da data.... http://www.itv.com/tourdefrance/video-team-sky-reveal-froome-climb-data-in-rest-day-press-conference

 

[Supersuperleeds]

ITV just said that they didn't have time to give the full Tim Kerrison barrage of Froome's data but that they would put it on their website. So get your calculators warmed up.....

EDIT: Ta da data.... http://www.itv.com/tourdefrance/video-team-sky-reveal-froome-climb-data-in-rest-day-press-conference

My calculator came up with 55378008

 

[smutchin]

What's the highest number of different British stage winners in a single edition of the Tour? We've had three this year, which I don't recall ever happening before (edit: except all those years ago in 2012, doh!). Would be great if one of the Yates brothers wins in the Alps to make it four.

 

[themosquitoking]

My calculator came up with 55378008

I got 55318008, much prefer my answer.

 

[jarlrmai]

So 5 days of racing left, what's the podium gonna look like?

1. Froome
2. Quintana
3. Valverde

So no change is my bet, I put G 4th though.