Tour de France 2012 (with SPOILERS)

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dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
I'm looking forward to this - Susie and I went north from Agde through Sete and Palavas-les-Flots last year, and it was one of the few parts of the French portion of our ride that was enjoyable. We didn't go to Cap d'Agde, which is not the kind of town that you google at work........
 

lejogger

Guru
Location
Wirral
Sorry if this has been asked already but I haven't been able to follow the thread.

What's the position if Wiggins/Froome go into the final day or two 1st and 2nd and become unassailable at some point, even in the last few kilometres.

Does Froome let Wiggins win or would Sky simply let their men battle it out?
It's not really that simple. The last day of competitive GC racing is an individual time trial, so no matter how things are lying at that point, both Wiggins and Froome should be going all out.
We know that although close, Wiggins has the slight edge in the TT, but it could be very interesting if for example Froome was sitting in yellow by 20 seconds over Brad, going out last and getting the time checks, to see what orders came over the race radio in the final km.
Do we think it's a possibility that should this be the case and Brad was virtual yellow, Froome might be asked to ease up and slot into second?

Personally I'd like to see both men fight it out over the TT and the best man wins... However it's a moot point at the minute until we know the standings on the start ramp
 

lejogger

Guru
Location
Wirral
Sean Yates doesn't sound convinced does he? I hear what he's saying, and respect the 'play your crards' line (he's right of course) but I don't hear ringing endorsement for Wiggins. I get the impression he feels Froome is the 'better' rider (whatever his definition of that might be).
I get the impression that Sean Yates should leave the media stuff to Dave, or maybe the team bike washer.
 
It's not really that simple. The last day of competitive GC racing is an individual time trial, so no matter how things are lying at that point, both Wiggins and Froome should be going all out.
We know that although close, Wiggins has the slight edge in the TT, but it could be very interesting if for example Froome was sitting in yellow by 20 seconds over Brad, going out last and getting the time checks, to see what orders came over the race radio in the final km.
Do we think it's a possibility that should this be the case and Brad was virtual yellow, Froome might be asked to ease up and slot into second?

Personally I'd like to see both men fight it out over the TT and the best man wins... However it's a moot point at the minute until we know the standings on the start ramp
Not a prayer.

The team would not issue that sort of order and if they did Froome's reply would make the Terry/Ferdinand spat seem very small beer.
 

raindog

er.....
Location
France
I get the impression that Sean Yates should leave the media stuff to Dave, or maybe the team bike washer.
Sean isn't very articulate at the best of times, but he's the DS and has to speak with the press. End of.

He does a quick interview every day in French through the car window sometime during the stage - he manages pretty well.
 
Location
Alberta
Not a prayer.

The team would not issue that sort of order and if they did Froome's reply would make the Terry/Ferdinand spat seem very small beer.

Yes, I think if it comes down to that situation then sky would be happy with any one of them winning overall, the goal seemed to be get a rider in yellow into Paris, not in particularly only wiggins.
 
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User169

Guest
Belgian TV's just been having a giggle at the Sky "WAG-war"
 

Steve H

Large Member
I'm struggling to see the Wiggins vs Froome thing as a real issue. I think they are both great riders and fantastic to have on the Sky team together. Wiggins is clearly in the lead and there is still a large element of risk ahead as they have many stages to get through before the race is over.

In the choice of:
1) have the whole Sky team protect the Sky lead by riding for Wiggins who is strong, has a good lead, and is one of the very best time triallers
Or
2) let Froome go off free because he has a chance of doing better in one or two stages, but at the risk of Wiggins losing some time on these stages

Personally I think it's a no-brainer decision at this stage. The whole team ride for Brad. In the final time trial where Froome has the opportunity to ride his heart out with no risk to Wiggins, again it is a no-brainer - he should, and he will be allowed to ride full pelt.

What Froome will be creating for himself, is a lot of respect. This will pay him dividends in the near future. There are going to be many races in the near to medium future where his team will ride for him.
 

lejogger

Guru
Location
Wirral
Not a prayer.

The team would not issue that sort of order and if they did Froome's reply would make the Terry/Ferdinand spat seem very small beer.
I do completely agree with you, but Froome has consistently stated that his job is to get Wiggo to Paris in yellow and he is supporting that, not chasing yellow himself.
 

smutchin

Cat 6 Racer
Location
The Red Enclave
Not a prayer.

The team would not issue that sort of order and if they did Froome's reply would make the Terry/Ferdinand spat seem very small beer.

Totally agree with this. Both men will be riding to win on the final time trial, no team orders.

And in that situation, Wiggo will win every time.

d.
 
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