Tour de France 2012 (with SPOILERS)

[thom]

Cadel loses 4 1/2 minutes to wiggo

 

[Flying_Monkey]

Tomorrow then... last chance for the climbers. And given that maybe we'll see VdB, or one of the others just below the podium places, have a proper go.

 

[thom]

Pierre Rolland tomorrow ?
Edit: actually unlikely to be let in a breakaway at 10 mins down on GC

 

[raindog]

Van Garderen now in front of Evans on GC

 

[Nearly there]

What happens to all the yellow Jerseys wiggins signs?and ive just seen voeckler do it to the mountain jerseys

 

[raindog]

get handed out to VIPs I think

 

[iLB]

Col de Peyresourde (9.5 km, 6.9 %, 657 m). Nibali, Wiggins, Froome: 24 min 28 sec, 23.30 Kph, VAM 1612 m/h, 5.99 W/kg

 

[raindog]

Col de Peyresourde (9.5 km, 6.9 %, 657 m). Nibali, Wiggins, Froome: 24 min 28 sec, 23.30 Kph, VAM 1612 m/h, 5.99 W/kg

Got the figures for Voeckler?

 

[iLB]

Got the figures for Voeckler?

Here they are, Col de Peyresourde (9.5 km, 6.9 %, 657 m). Voeckler: 26 min 11 sec, 21.77 Kph, VAM 1506 m/h, 5.59 W/kg

From here https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily

 

[raindog]

cheers iLB

 

[smutchin]

Col de Peyresourde (9.5 km, 6.9 %, 657 m). Nibali, Wiggins, Froome: 24 min 28 sec, 23.30 Kph, VAM 1612 m/h, 5.99 W/kg

Same W/kg figure for all three?

Even though (acording to the internet)...
Nibali = 64kg
Wiggins = 69kg
Froome = 72kg

Plus the fact that Wiggins was sheltering behind Froome for most of the climb...

d.

 

[andrew_s]

Yes, same W/kg for same time on same climb. Weight cancels out.
Actual watts per rider will vary depending on winds, drafting, but the W/kg figures ignore these.

Energy used = Mass x height x g
Average watts = Energy / time
Watts per kg = Average Watts / Mass = gh/t (g=9.81, h in metres, t in seconds)

 

[smutchin]

Weight cancels out...

Energy used = Mass x height x g
Average watts = Energy / time
Watts per kg = Average Watts / Mass = gh/t (g=9.81, h in metres, t in seconds)

OK, that makes sense. Thanks.

d.

 

[PpPete]

Assuming that Wiggins, Froome and Nibali are all pretty close to their limit, 5.99 W/kg would suggest that either they are clean, or whatever "preparation" any of them are using is not giving them much advantage?

 

[Flying_Monkey]

Assuming that Wiggins, Froome and Nibali are all pretty close to their limit, 5.99 W/kg would suggest that either they are clean, or whatever "preparation" any of them are using is not giving them much advantage?

Yup.