Well i'm pleased that my enquiry has generated so many replies and comments. Its good to know that there are many of you out there prepared to share and discuss options and experiences. I've made my decision and opted for toe clips at the moment, and so far have had no problem with them. In fact, I'm very pleased with them. As for being arrogant Mr black'n'yellow, I think you ought to read back some of your own posts before directing comments like that towards others. And no I dont know where you live, why would I. And yes I am aware that mountain rescue perform a valuable and un-celebrated function, some times helping people that are ill prepared for the task they undertook. But equally, are often called on to assist people that have every possible piece of equipment and have taken every precaution. I come back to my opinion of 'horses for courses' Because these SPD suit you, it dosnt mean that other options should be thrown out or ignored. I shall leave it there and enjoy a nice few miles in the saddle on what looks like a beautiful day out there.