To what extent can a summer bike be used in bad weather and remain a summer bike?

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swee'pea99

Squire
mrfacetious said:
so general consensus is rain in the summer = safe to go, clean after, salt and nastiness in the winter = avoid? Thanks guys. Any advance on the silicone spray?
Well....if you have a fancy 10-speed (ie, 10 rear cassette, not 5 at the back two at the front) - with delicate chains 'n gears 'n that. If you have a good old 10 speed (5 at the back, two at the front), or better yet, a fixie, you can ride it year round and as long as you clean it every year, and lube the chains when it's been raining lots, you should be ok.

Silicone spray? What's that? :wacko:
 

MacB

Lover of things that come in 3's
year round commuter - 3 speed Sturmey Archer in a titanium(or steel if you're cheap:biggrin:) frame with steel or carbon forks - gear it with a 2:1, chainring to cog, ratio and you'll have 40, 54 and 72 gear inches. Replace any bits that are worn each Spring. Obviously needs rack and guards etc.

Even easier make it a single speed or fixed, for me it would be worth the dosh not to be arsed with a heavy cleaning duty around a derailler bike. Push the boat out and chuck in a SON 20r dynamo front wheel with Edelux front light and B&M rear. You could probably do this for about £1700(titanium) including a spare rear wheel in case of mechanicals.

Fully kitted out I reckon you could keep this at the 25lb mark. That would be a true, year round, do it all bike for me....anyone want to donate £1700???
 

Debian

New Member
Location
West Midlands
No point being "precious" about a bike, possibly unless it's some specialized racing machine that you're using to train for this year's TdeF and which costs more than a small car!

Most bikes are a lump of fairly durable alloy pipework (possibly carbon fibre) with a few replaceable steel bits bolted on. They are quite happy in all weathers and temperatures. A little more oil and wiping during the winter but otherwise they're fine. Just replace bits when needed.

I have a (for me) fairly expensive MTB but do I refuse to use it in the mud? Do I have a winter and a summer MTB? No, I can't afford it for one thing and for another I wouldn't have the space to keep them or the extra time to maintain them, but there's also no need for me to have them.

If you can afford to / want to have summer / winter bikes then fine, your choice but there's no need to have.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
MacB said:
year round commuter - 3 speed Sturmey Archer in a titanium(or steel if you're cheap:biggrin:) frame with steel or carbon forks - gear it with a 2:1, chainring to cog, ratio and you'll have 40, 54 and 72 gear inches. Replace any bits that are worn each Spring. Obviously needs rack and guards etc.

Even easier make it a single speed or fixed, for me it would be worth the dosh not to be arsed with a heavy cleaning duty around a derailler bike. Push the boat out and chuck in a SON 20r dynamo front wheel with Edelux front light and B&M rear. You could probably do this for about £1700(titanium) including a spare rear wheel in case of mechanicals.

Fully kitted out I reckon you could keep this at the 25lb mark. That would be a true, year round, do it all bike for me....anyone want to donate £1700???

Where did you get that idea from? Sounds daft to me....:biggrin:


I've got a 'Summer' bike. It comes out when the weather is forecast beyond question dry and warm.

I've got a commute bike just like MacB's Sturmey set-up.

I've got a 'summer commute' bike which also does Audax.

I've got a 'Bastille day' bike. Yes, once a year.
 

moolarb

Active Member
Debian said:
No point being "precious" about a bike, possibly unless it's some specialized racing machine that you're using to train for this year's TdeF and which costs more than a small car!

Most bikes are a lump of fairly durable alloy pipework (possibly carbon fibre) with a few replaceable steel bits bolted on. They are quite happy in all weathers and temperatures. A little more oil and wiping during the winter but otherwise they're fine. Just replace bits when needed.

I have a (for me) fairly expensive MTB but do I refuse to use it in the mud? Do I have a winter and a summer MTB? No, I can't afford it for one thing and for another I wouldn't have the space to keep them or the extra time to maintain them, but there's also no need for me to have them.

If you can afford to / want to have summer / winter bikes then fine, your choice but there's no need to have.

Spot on. I use both of my bikes all year round in all conditions. I buy different bikes for different terrain (MTB/road) not different weather. Of course they need cleaning/lubing a bit more in the winter. In any case the British weather is so crap most of the year anyway, you'd never get out if you were waiting for perfect weather.
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
Debian said:
No point being "precious" about a bike, possibly unless it's some specialized racing machine that you're using to train for this year's TdeF and which costs more than a small car!

Most bikes are a lump of fairly durable alloy pipework (possibly carbon fibre) with a few replaceable steel bits bolted on. They are quite happy in all weathers and temperatures. A little more oil and wiping during the winter but otherwise they're fine. Just replace bits when needed.

Absolutely!
My Giant TCR1/Ultegra gets used all year round regardless of the weather. I don't commute on it though, (I have an old steel hack for my very very short trip).
It looks like new but is 5 years old, I'm not a cleaning obsessive either, just keep her well lubed-up and a quick rinse over when she's been out in salty conditions.
My only concession to the winter is a pair of heavier wheels (the original Ultegra/CXP22s) with 25c tyres which are a tad more P*ncture and pothole resistant than my summer Aero Reynolds/PR3 combo.

Other than that, just get-out and ride - come rain or shine, day or night.

RT and Debian sum it up for me.
 

jay clock

Massive member
Location
Hampshire UK
My winter bike has mudguard clearance and rack mounts which the summer one doesn't, plus the components such as chain are much cheaper for its 8 speed setup than my Ultegra summer bike. The winter salt and road muck certainly dishes out a challenge and if my £400 bike was ruined for some reason I would be happier to write that off than my BMC road bike
 

Fiona N

Veteran
In general, I'm not as fit in winter as in summer due to less mileage (and possible Xmas excesses) so what I would call a winter bike is one with more forgiving gear ratios - possibly a triple - in addition to somewhat heavier tyres and (hypothetically in my case) mudguard clearance.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Fiona N said:
In general, I'm not as fit in winter as in summer due to less mileage (and possible Xmas excesses) so what I would call a winter bike is one with more forgiving gear ratios - possibly a triple - in addition to somewhat heavier tyres and (hypothetically in my case) mudguard clearance.

This, as many will know, is exactly opposite of what should be done.

Less miles in the winter time demands a much heavier bike with massive gears and an elevated coefficient of drag.

1/ The result of Xmas excesses NEEDS to be shifted.

2/ Physical power should be improved so that when you get your summer bike out, you will FLY....


Submitting to lower gearing and resultant lower speeds during winter allows your legs to diminish, and when you get your summer bike out, it will feel no better than last year.
 

Rhythm Thief

Legendary Member
Location
Ross on Wye
Don't forget Jimbo that cycling is supposed to be fun. If taking it easy in the winter means that you have fun at the expense of a little form, then so be it. We're not all training for the Paris - Roubaix.:tongue:
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Rhythm Thief said:
Don't forget Jimbo that cycling is supposed to be fun. If taking it easy in the winter means that you have fun at the expense of a little form, then so be it. We're not all training for the Paris - Roubaix.;)

The fun I have on my SWorks in the summer, without doubt, outweighs the slog I go through during the winter. ;)
 

zacklaws

Guru
Location
Beverley
Many reasons here why you need a summer bike and also a winter bike, but what it really boils down too is having a cheapish bike and an expensive bike. I ride my expensive bike regardless of the weather, as it is "my best bike" but come winter, the big problem arises of maintenance and cleaning it constantly which can be after every ride, sometimes I get home plastered in mud that farmers have left on the road and if salt has been laid and its wet, then that is more of a reason to clean your bike to prevent corrosion.

When the weather is cold and wet and and you have had a long ride, you just do not feel up to cleaning it at times, so that is where the cheaper bike comes into the equation, ride it, possibly quick wash down and relube if its lucky, but even so it also needs a good cleaning on a regular basis, my commuter never gets cleaned though apart from now and again when it gets too grimy, but it has depriciated in value over the years so its probably only worth about £50, but if i went to work on my Madone everyday, then cleaning and maintenance would become a nightmare.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
The thing to do is have a...

Vintage race bike,
Very expensive bike,
Not so expensive bike,
Cheapish bike,
Cheap bike,
Runabout hack
& a
Bike that young Wannabe whippersnappers say "What's that?"
 

buggi

Bird Saviour
Location
Solihull
for me personally "winter" constitutes any weather than requires salt or grit being put down. I don't want that in the workings of my nice bike. But all other weathers i consider "summer" ;)
 
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