Tiagra or 105?

[Ajax_Gaz]

Evans do 0% finance, have the 2011 Tiagra (in a 51 / 56cm) for £850 it seems and they price match

http://www.evanscycl...1?query=synapse

Or Tredz have for £700 http://www.tredz.co....-Bike_39641.htm - they do 0% over 6 months

Vickster - Thanks, but unfortunately i need a 58 so no good i'm afraid.

So you decided on a Synapse, no bad choice As for groupset, I'd go for 105 if you can, unless you can say categorically that you won't hanker after it if you do buy Tiagra. I will admit that I do like my bling, hence full DA on my CAAD, but even if you go for Tiagra it's a perfectly functional set up that will last you a long time, and if you did want to upgrade things as they wear out it won't cost you a fortune to slap 105 bits on it, the biggest outlay you'd have would be the shifters.

There is an argument that the cheaper stuff is more hard wearing as well. I have no comparison abilities to substantiate or deny this as I didn't keep my Ribble 105 for long, but whether it is or not, the fact is that when you do need to change a mech the Tiagra will be cheaper, although 105 aren't silly money they are obviously a bit dearer.

That said, there are so many used parts available you might end up making it full DA

Cheers Smokey!

To be honest it was your DA bike that's had me looking at Synapse models above the 105 but i don't think i can justify them just yet really. I think i'm pretty much set on the 105, that was the bike i spent more time on last weekend and can only see me wishing i'd bought it if i have the tiagra...

Some excellent points about cost of parts. I'll definitely know where to turn when the DA equipment comes calling

I have Tiagra on my bike, and I'm very happy with it, but if it's just for the sake of an extra £50 that you're happy to spend, I'd say go for the 105. If you get Tiagra but find you can't stop wondering if you should have gone for 105, it will cost you a lot more to upgrade later.

Thanks for the advice. I'm kinda thinking the same way, even if its going for this years i think i'll be wanting the 105 if i went for the Tiagra.

 

[Ajax_Gaz]

Anyone know anything about Cube road bikes?... i can't help but love the looks!

http://www.formbycycles.co.uk/product/10632/Cube_Peloton_SL_Compact_Road_Bike_2012

Don't like the 105 colours...

http://www.formbycycles.co.uk/product/10748/Cube_Peloton_Race_Triple_Road_Bike_2012

Tiagra is nice, but at the price above i'd be tempted by the Ultegra....


I know the Attempt is now the Peloton and the 2011 Attempt had very good reviews, but are Cube road bikes actually any good? - How do the above compare to the Cannondale and does either of the above geometry wise compare to a Synapse Cannondale??

 

[Ajax_Gaz]

Just spoken to a manager in a LBS about Cube bikes who tells me the wheels/tyres on the Attempt/Peloton bikes are only suitable for people up to about 13 and a bit stone in weight. As i'm closer to 15 and a half, it won't take long for me to buckle a wheel on our roads...

Is this true? Is this the case for all road bikes that there is a weight issue with the components?

 

[jinlansing]

It's my understanding that the Tiagra shifters don't have a trim position like 105's and better do. Trim is nice to have.

 

[Ajax_Gaz]

It's my understanding that the Tiagra shifters don't have a trim position like 105's and better do. Trim is nice to have.

Thanks for the advice

 

[Hacienda71]

Tiagra have trim position for triples as do sora as well.

 

[jinlansing]

Tiagra have trim position for triples as do sora as well.

That is good to know, ty.

 

[TheBoyBilly]

The 'new' 105 (5700) has the cables running neatly through the bars and gives the bike a cleaner look. I have the older (5600) 105 on my Secteur and find it a very nice piece of kit. But I don't really think that anything from Sora and above is a poor groupset in reality. Modern gears are brilliant compared to some of the stuff I grew up with.

Bill

 

[colinr]

Just spoken to a manager in a LBS about Cube bikes who tells me the wheels/tyres on the Attempt/Peloton bikes are only suitable for people up to about 13 and a bit stone in weight. As i'm closer to 15 and a half, it won't take long for me to buckle a wheel on our roads...

Is this true? Is this the case for all road bikes that there is a weight issue with the components?

Sounds like rubbish to me, otherwise nobody over about 5' 10" would be able to ride a road bike!
Well built wheels are tough beasts and unless you're curb jumping or ploughing through potholes I'd be surprised if you had problems.

 

[PaulSecteur]

Tiagra tripples have the trim (As do 105 tripple and double)

I cant find any real info about those wheels, but with that many spokes I would be very suprised if they couldnt handle your weight, plus another stone or 2. Obviously the heavier you are the greater the stress from any bumps, so no jumping it off the kerbs!

As a chunkier rider myself, if I do have to go over a pothole it is alot easier on the bike if you stand up on the pedals and let the bike pivot under you while you go over any rough tarmac.

 

[e-rider]

Size/geometry is the important factor.

But to answer the question, 105 is much better. Shimano 105 is the first 'proper' groupset in the Shimano road range!

 

[e-rider]

Just spoken to a manager in a LBS about Cube bikes who tells me the wheels/tyres on the Attempt/Peloton bikes are only suitable for people up to about 13 and a bit stone in weight. As i'm closer to 15 and a half, it won't take long for me to buckle a wheel on our roads...

Is this true? Is this the case for all road bikes that there is a weight issue with the components?

That is complete crap - go to another bike shop NOW! From the manager as well.............not even the spoty Saturday kid!!!

 

[billy1561]

Gaz, where abouts are you? Cyclehouse in Warrington have the 58 in stock for £899, maybe they could deliver if you were certain over size?
Bought mine from there and the bike is great and importantly the customer service is spot on too

 

[Ajax_Gaz]

Thanks guys

Size/geometry is the important factor.

But to answer the question, 105 is much better. Shimano 105 is the first 'proper' groupset in the Shimano road range!

I agree, been difficult finding the right bikes in my size so far locally, but that's more to do with lack of 2011 bikes remaining.

See above and other thread - now considering a cube bike and looking at the Ultegra over the 105...... decided if i went Tiagra i'll have wished i'd got the 105 now...

But more importantly i think i'm looking for more relaxed Geometry - Cannondale Synapse over CAAD, Cube Peloton over Agree etc...

That is complete crap - go to another bike shop NOW! From the manager as well.............not even the spoty Saturday kid!!!

Yeah took me surprise i'll admit - started with the saturday kid but he couldn't even tell me what they had in stock! so the manager took over.

Gaz, where abouts are you? Cyclehouse in Warrington have the 58 in stock for £899, maybe they could deliver if you were certain over size?
Bought mine from there and the bike is great and importantly the customer service is spot on too

Unfortunately i'm down in South Wales so not local but i'll try googling them now and see what i can find out.

Cheers for the advice - good customer service seems to be so hard to find at the moment!

 

[VamP]

What I really like about Cube bikes is they come out of the shop with top notch tyres. Not like just about everybody else, who fit a cheap tyre to hit the pricepoint, and leave it up the customer to replace nearly new rubbish tyres, with something decent.

Regarding the wheelset on that Peloton - I don't think that you'll have any problems, and certainly not any more so than with whatever the CAAD10 comes with.

I have Easton EX50 on my cyclocross bike, and they are still 100% true after 5 cyclocross races. That's a lot of abuse.

Regarding the difference between Cube and Cannondale - I reckon that you'll be happy with either, the CAAD 10 is more hardcore though.