This tiny submarine 2.4 miles under the sea, visiting the relics of RMS Titanic. Can it be found and the crew saved before the air runs out?

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Drago

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One British nanak captain has examined images of the craft and can see no evidence of CO2 scrubbers, desptice what Ocean Gate claim.

Mind you, OG have been so aught out in a few fibs this last few days if newspaper reports are to be believed. For example, just today Boeing have denied any involvement in the design or build of the vessel, which is a little at odds with OGs past claims. I guess this will all come out in the wash over coming months as the investigatuon unfolds.
 

Pale Rider

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Boeing have denied any involvement in the design or build of the vessel,

Success has many parents, but failure is always an orphan.

Boeing may well not have been involved, but they are only the first of lots of companies and individuals who will be seeking to distance themselves from this shambles.

Had the voyage gone well, the same individuals would be clambering over themselves to share in the credit.
 

captain nemo1701

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The Titanic disaster claimed a lot of lives and over a century later, likely five more. There is no 'exploration' - we know where it is and the surrounding sea bed has been surveyed a lot. There is little 'science' - damn thing hit an iceberg & sank. Isn't it about time we called it a day on this inexplicable obsession with this boat?. I'd declare it a grave and permanently ban more dives.

Plus, it seems to me there's a connection with wealth and stupidity. If I were a billionaire, I'd hire the Alvin (curiously, commissioned on my birthday) if I wanted to visit the wreck not risk my life in a steel tube steered with an off-the-shelf games console and no real safety backup. Musk is a bit of a fruitcake too - blasting cars into space & ruining astronomy with thousands of his Starlink satellites.
 
The Titanic disaster claimed a lot of lives and over a century later, likely five more. There is no 'exploration' - we know where it is and the surrounding sea bed has been surveyed a lot. There is little 'science' - damn thing hit an iceberg & sank. Isn't it about time we called it a day on this inexplicable obsession with this boat?. I'd declare it a grave and permanently ban more dives.

Plus, it seems to me there's a connection with wealth and stupidity. If I were a billionaire, I'd hire the Alvin (curiously, commissioned on my birthday) if I wanted to visit the wreck not risk my life in a steel tube steered with an off-the-shelf games console and no real safety backup. Musk is a bit of a fruitcake too - blasting cars into space & ruining astronomy with thousands of his Starlink satellites.

Well if anyone would know, you would. :okay:
 

DaveReading

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It seems the air could last longer than some people think.

The original 96 hour estimate was based on the occupants living normally.
Nor was 96 hours intended as an exact figure in the first place. It's absurd all those journos counting down the minutes, when it's a fundamentally imprecise deadline.
 

Profpointy

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It's US waters and the US coastguard, who are technically a branch of their military, would enforce it as far as the Titanic is concerned. I can see that happening after this for all but licenced science visits.

Not looking good at all. Very sad, but bad luck under 12500 feet of water rarely has good outcomes.

Did anyone e see the chap on the news yesterday? He'd paid a deposit for a visit to Titanic on this sub, but once he'd clapped eyes on it and saw how Heath Robinson, in his opinion, it was he asked for his money back. I'm not an expert on such matters but it seems to me a very clever design but possibly poorly executed.

A pall of mine built his own scuba diving rebreather. It looked terrible as there were various plumbing supplies from Wickses, the "counter lung" was a landrover inner tube and the backplate was a canteen dinner tray.
One or two bits were commercial diving parts but not many. He built it for deep exploratory cave dives on trimix (helium mixes). Thing is, the guy is a PhD nuclear physicist, at that time working on the development of nuclear fusion, and despite all appearances, every single element of the unit, and his subsequent dives with it were meticulously planned to the last detail, including options for every conceivable failure scenario. Anything that is a one off invariably looks a bit shonky from a distance, as its been built by development engineers rather than styled by the marketing department. If you look at any space related stuff in a science museum it is invariably very crude looking
 

Profpointy

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I'd declare it a grave and permanently ban more dives.

Many people have died diving in Scapa Flow, or for that matter on holiday doing stripy fish dives in warm clear waters, or rambling up Scafell in the lake district for that matter. Presumably these should also be declared as graves and visits permanently banned. Likewise the tour de France after that poor guy was killed a week or so back

Ban anything vaguely dangerous, particularly if I don't do it myself and don't have a clue about it
 
Anything that is a one off invariably looks a bit shonky from a distance, as its been built by development engineers rather than styled by the marketing department. If you look at any space related stuff in a science museum it is invariably very crude looking

yeah, it's funny when you watch something like footage from the Appollo program - the capsules etc look like this sort of kit:
macduffee-suit.jpg
 
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