The Vuelta with spoilers
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mjr
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Movistar attacked Carapaz first. Someone needs to remind them who they should be racing. Then Mas leads Roglič out and gifts him the bonus seconds plus a gap.
I love seeing Movistar lose but I'd prefer even them to make a race of it.
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Adam4868
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Do tell us your tactics for breaking Roglic...because just about everyone had a go today.Thought it was a good stage.Movistar attacked Carapaz first. Someone needs to remind them who they should be racing. Then Mas leads Roglič out and gifts him the bonus seconds plus a gap.
I love seeing Movistar lose but I'd prefer even them to make a race of it.
Don't know if you noticed the GC...but Movistar look to be doing ok to me ?
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mjr
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Mas should have held a bit back for the sprint, hugged the barriers, tried to get Roglič to come around too early and so on. Or do you think leading him out and getting gapped was tactical brilliance?
Yates should have pushed on, not gone back for Bernard at least twice that I saw.
Other than that, teams could try getting any 2nd or 3rd GC rider they have into the break and asking questions of Jumbo (and Movistar if Carapaz is in the break!). If they keep just trying to grind the peloton before the final climb and then attack, Jumbo are strong enough to defend the grind and Roglič is strong enough to mark most attacks, so they're really just gambling on his form fading again, on Roglič losing it as much as them winning it. What are the odds of that?
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I don't think Ineos have any answer to Rog and Pog at the moment.They don't have the riders capableof taking them on .Just IMO of course.
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It does look that way, else I don't know why they rode tempo so much today. I suspect the downhill finish on Tuesday means no GC action, so when's next chance for an attack that could stick?
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I agree Roglic looks the strongest and he's shown it...but it's not over yet.
As for all GTs Giro ?
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But what happened at the Giro. Was Rog outridden. I think not. Incidents can happen in any race but barring that ....???
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Lol....does he look unbeatable ? Yes
Is he beatable yes.
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Is he beatable? Yes, by Pog.
My 3 cents:
Roglic has a history of fading in the third week.
Today's tactics were as sensible IMO as possible - separate him from domestiques as early as possible.
JV looks weaker than last year.
All in all - I expect Rog to have to fight much harder for the red jersey in the following 2 weeks
On a side note, Movistar looks like they might actually contend this year
Roglic has a history of fading in the third week.
Today's tactics were as sensible IMO as possible - separate him from domestiques as early as possible.
JV looks weaker than last year.
All in all - I expect Rog to have to fight much harder for the red jersey in the following 2 weeks
On a side note, Movistar looks like they might actually contend this year
Last year, if it wasn't for Movistar wheeling Roglic, Carpaz would have won
