The Tyre Extinguishers

[DRHysted]

How do these people know for what purpose these vehicles are being used? How do they know they aren’t targeting a community first responder (these are voluntary roles using their own vehicles)?
These threads were people tell others what their needs are always reminds me of the time I was informed at work I didn’t need a large vehicle as they only ever see me driving it alone, I “should have a Smart car”. I did take the time to enlighten them, but it enlightened me to the fact we can never tell someone what they need without knowing ALL their requirements.
As a side note my current estate car has a larger footprint than my old 4x4.

 

[Dogtrousers]

How do these people know for what purpose these vehicles are being used? How do they know they aren’t targeting a community first responder (these are voluntary roles using their own vehicles)?

In Portobello? I'm trying to imagine an incident in Portobello requiring offroad capability.

As an aside I used to know a (professional) paramedic who used her own car to attend incidents - in East London. She had one of those diddy two seater things. I can't remember what they're called.

 

[Brandane]

I can't remember what they're called

A motorbike?
Or perhaps a Toyota iQ.

 

[Dogtrousers]

A motorbike?
Or perhaps a Toyota iQ.

Something like that. But it doesn't really matter

 

[DRHysted]

In Portobello? I'm trying to imagine an incident in Portobello requiring offroad capability.

As an aside I used to know a (professional) paramedic who used her own car to attend incidents - in East London. She had one of those diddy two seater things. I can't remember what they're called.

Personally I used my 4x4 more for towing than off-road, although it was fully equipped for off-road use and was used off-road on occasions. If it wasn’t for the 20mpg I’d still have the 4x4 as it was a much better and safer tow vehicle than my current estate (which drops to 29mpg when towing).
To rephrase what I was trying to put across earlier, without knowing a person’s actual requirements you are speculating what you think they should have, which leads to mistakes.
Without actually knowing what a community first responder uses their vehicle for when they are not volunteering, means you do not know what type of vehicle they need. Sabotaging such a vehicle could risk a life, not a risk I’m willing to take.

 

[Dogtrousers]

Personally I used my 4x4 more for towing than off-road, although it was fully equipped for off-road use and was used off-road on occasions. If it wasn’t for the 20mpg I’d still have the 4x4 as it was a much better and safer tow vehicle than my current estate (which drops to 29mpg when towing).
To rephrase what I was trying to put across earlier, without knowing a person’s actual requirements you are speculating what you think they should have, which leads to mistakes.
Without actually knowing what a community first responder uses their vehicle for when they are not volunteering, means you do not know what type of vehicle they need. Sabotaging such a vehicle could risk a life, not a risk I’m willing to take.

Rubbish. I'm not speculating at all.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

How do these people know for what purpose these vehicles are being used? How do they know they aren’t targeting a community first responder (these are voluntary roles using their own vehicles)?
These threads were people tell others what their needs are always reminds me of the time I was informed at work I didn’t need a large vehicle as they only ever see me driving it alone, I “should have a Smart car”. I did take the time to enlighten them, but it enlightened me to the fact we can never tell someone what they need without knowing ALL their requirements.
As a side note my current estate car has a larger footprint than my old 4x4.

Although I understand your point, you have to think about the society that we are developing that thinks it's acceptable to drive a permanent 4WD 5.0L 542bhp Supercharged V8 Range Rover capable of 0-60 in 4.4 seconds around the streets of London in the first place at 16 mpg which I think is optimistic. Or for that matter why these types of vehicle are even being produced.

 

[MrGrumpy]

"So you support such action and the potential consequences? "
If by consequences you mean violence against the protestors, and possible arrest for damages: well, yes, I support the protestors in taking that risk..
Just as the suffragettes risked arrest and significant injury in their protests.
And I support their cause - at least until you show me the better way [assuming it exists]. I don't regard shrugging, and saying "well some tiny minority of people need these things" cuts the mustard.

Suffragettes lol wow that is a stretch is it not .

 

[MrGrumpy]

Although I understand your point, you have to think about the society that we are developing that thinks it's acceptable to drive a permanent 4WD 5.0L 542bhp Supercharged V8 Range Rover capable of 0-60 in 4.4 seconds around the streets of London in the first place at 16 mpg which I think is optimistic. Or for that matter why these types of vehicle are even being produced.

There are not many driving those though , not round my way and any I’ve looked at for sale have very low mileage , no wonder ! I see more Merc AMG 63 Classes or E classes , not SUVs btw

 

[matticus]

Suffragettes lol wow that is a stretch is it not .

It's no-one else's place to make the decision for them, or embark on a form of terrorism to make the decision uncomfortable.

 

[Ian H]

Suffragettes lol wow that is a stretch is it not .

It is if you believe that climate change is trivial.

 

[DRHysted]

Although I understand your point, you have to think about the society that we are developing that thinks it's acceptable to drive a permanent 4WD 5.0L 542bhp Supercharged V8 Range Rover capable of 0-60 in 4.4 seconds around the streets of London in the first place at 16 mpg which I think is optimistic. Or for that matter why these types of vehicle are even being produced.

My old 4x4 was a 2litre diesel and would’ve been one of their targets. My estate is a 2litre diesel and (for now) isn’t on their hit list.
Really glad I don’t live in London.

 

[DRHysted]

Rubbish. I'm not speculating at all.

Really, are you omnipresent then?

 

[MrGrumpy]

It is if you believe that climate change is trivial.

And playing about with tyres on peoples vehicles , the only contact with the road is trivial as well ? Really , why don’t they just cut the brake pipes whilst in there ?

 

[Dogtrousers]

Really, are you omnipresent then?

Nope, I'm not that either.