The Retirement Thread

[Dave7]

And how come's Adam and Eve have a belly button.....

Obvs innit.
They would have looked silly without them.

 

[Dave7]

And why did Adam have nipples?
And what happened to Adam's first wife, Lillith?
Where did Cain's wife come from?
Honestly, there are so many plot holes in the Bible that I'm surprised anyone takes it seriously.

In order.......
Who says Adam had nipples?
Who was Lilith? Never heard that one.
Cain married his sister. As they were perfect then inter-relative relationships had no effect on them.

 

[Dave7]

Dr Alice said something interesting not long ago. She said she is a humanist not an athiest as being an athiest implies that you acknowledge a God figure and as she does not acknowledge that there are any gods, she prefers to be called a humanist. I tend to agree with her.

I always thought atheists believed that there is no god while agnostics have an open mind.

 

[screenman]

Rusty and weeping slightly . They said it will be ok until my MOT in jan

Thanks

Just spoken to a couple of friends that deal in a lot of Suzuki cars and they both said Sims Suzuki of Darlington are the experts, they also both said the pipes can be very expensive, I was hoping for better news.

 

[welsh dragon]

Just spoken to a couple of friends that deal in a lot of Suzuki cars and they both said Sims Suzuki of Darlington are the experts, they also both said the pipes can be very expensive, I was hoping for better news.

I see. At least I know I won't be ripped off. Thanks for that. And it will be a once only job as well.

 

[screenman]

I see. At least I know I won't be ripped off. Thanks for that. And it will be a once only job as well.

Yo are welcome.

 

[Dave7]

The Bible ripped the Noahic flood story off from the ancient Mesopotamian poem 'The Epic of Gilgamesh', existing many centuries before the first biblical script was written down.

Eee.......everyday is an education in 'ere innit?

The actual flood, not that Gilgamesh rubbish, is an established fact......along with the ark.
Without them, how do you explain the elephant having a long trunk or the Giraffe having a long neck.
They were both running late and got them trapped when the door of the ark slammed shut.
TBH I thought everyone knew that

 

[ColinJ]

I like long days.

That is fairly obvious for most of you lot. Since most of you don't have to get up really early, you must like doing it.

I don't really enjoy most of my days so I don't want to prolong them by getting up early. I like the peace and quiet of the night though so I prefer to be awake late and then grab 5 or 6 hours sleep. The trouble is that I am tired a lot of the time during the day. It is 13:40 and I still feel half asleep; I feel more awake at 01:40!

Peanut butter and sliced banana on toast for brekkie, not sure where Pam has come up with that one from, I am guessing we have too many bananas in stock.

When I used to buy bread that was one of my favourite combinations!

AND we have a leak !!! Looks like a seal in the window. Its 27 years old so owes us nothing but I doubt I can get new seals fitted

I get water coming in round the edge of my front door when the wind blows from the NW during heavy rain. The mastic round the door needs replacing. I had better do it soon because the damp is getting round the back of the light switch!!

 

[Dirk]

I always thought atheists believed that there is no god while agnostics have an open mind.

That's what a lot of people think, including Alice Roberts by the sound of it.....and she really should know better.
It's easy if you break it down to the root of the words.

Theism is a belief claim.
Gnosticism is a knowledge claim.

There is a difference between belief and knowledge. You can believe something that is false and has no evidence to support it.
Knowledge is something that is demonstrably true ie. comports with reality and has supporting evidence.

Atheism is the non acceptance of the Theist's positive claim. It is not a positive claim that God does not exist.
Agnosticism is the lack of knowledge as to the truth of the claim.

So.....it's possible to be a:
1. A Gnostic Theist (one who makes the positive claim for God and knows for certain that it's true).
2. An Agnostic Theist ( one who makes the positive claim for God but doesn't know for certain that it's true).
3. A Gnostic Atheist (one who makes the positive claim that God does not exist and knows for certain that it's true).
4. An Agnostic Atheist ( one who rejects the positive claim for God but does not know for certain that it's true)

As it's impossible to prove God's existence, one way or the other, then the only honest defendable positions are 2 & 4.
As it's the Theist who is making the positive claim it's up to them to provide the burden of proof to support it.
All most Atheists are saying is that the burden of proof has not yet been reached, so the claim is rejected until such time as sufficient evidence supports it.
It is not saying 'There is no God'.

Phew......I hope that clears things up.

 

[screenman]

ColinJ I have suffered depression all my life, so I can feel for you, however it is also thought that night owls suffer more than early birds, which is why I turned my days around with a lot of effort.

 

[screenman]

That's what a lot of people think, including Alice Roberts by the sound of it.....and she really should know better.
It's easy if you break it down to the root of the words.

Theism is a belief claim.
Gnosticism is a knowledge claim.

There is a difference between belief and knowledge. You can believe something that is false and has no evidence to support it.
Knowledge is something that is demonstrably true ie. comports with reality and has supporting evidence.

Atheism is the non acceptance of the Theist's positive claim. It is not a positive claim that God does not exist.
Agnosticism is the lack of knowledge as to the truth of the claim.

So.....it's possible to be a:
1. A Gnostic Theist (one who makes the positive claim for God and knows for certain that it's true).
2. An Agnostic Theist ( one who makes the positive claim for God but doesn't know for certain that it's true).
3. A Gnostic Atheist (one who makes the positive claim that God does not exist and knows for certain that it's true).
4. An Agnostic Atheist ( one who rejects the positive claim for God but does not know for certain that it's true)

As it's impossible to prove God's existence, one way or the other, then the only honest defendable positions are 2 & 4.
As it's the Theist who is making the positive claim it's up to them to provide the burden of proof to support it.
All most Atheists are saying is that the burden of proof has not yet been reached, so the claim is rejected until such time as sufficient evidence supports it.
It is not saying 'There is no God'.

Phew......I hope that clears things up.

Whoosh! Did anyone else hear that noise as that lot went over my head. Very informative though, I think.

 

[Dirk]

Can we have a whip round to take a contract out on the weather forecasters?
Just booked next week away when they said it was going to be OK.
Checked the forecast 4 hours later and now they are saying rain.

 

[Dirk]

Whoosh! Did anyone else hear that noise as that lot went over my head. Very informative though, I think.

If it helps to clarify a position, then it's worthwhile.

 

[PaulSB]

@Dirk - this is very interesting. I have to read it several more times but I'm hoping to grasp it and retain it.

On a more realistic note I've spent the last two hours watching bikepacking videos. I used to love touring. I've got the itch to get up and go. Now I have to enthuse my cycling buddies as Mrs P won't allow me to go solo given my previous medical issues.

 

[ColinJ]

ColinJ I have suffered depression all my life, so I can feel for you, however it is also thought that night owls suffer more than early birds, which is why I turned my days around with a lot of effort.

Not always true though... I have been getting calls from a friend of mine who has adopted the early-to-bed, early-to-rise lifestyle. She sometimes rings me before 10:00 when I am still asleep. She would have been awake for 4 or 5 hours by then and feeling that her day was dragging...

I am going to make the effort before winter sets in though. If I carry on like this I am only going to be seeing 3 or 4 hours of daylight a day, and it is often gloomy here in the winter anyway. My S.A.D. will kick in big-style if I am hardly riding my bike AND sleeping through the few hours of available daylight.

If I could afford it (and Covid-19 were not an issue) then I would go somewhere sunny with my bike from November to April!