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classic33

Leg End Member
 
These are my favourite trains:
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District Line R stock

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District Line CO/CP stock.

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London Tilbury & Southend Railway (now C2C) Class 302 EMUs, formerly AM2. The branch on the left took me home to Ockendon.
 

classic33

Leg End Member

Colin_P

Guru
The other day I was waiting on the platform at a station on the Great Western main for one of the nice new electric trains when out of the blue a 37 came trundling along. All on it's own not pulling anything, an amazing thing to see and a nice surprise. Sadly I didn't have time to take a photo or video.

Looking here (25/10/18)
http://www.class37.co.uk/2018/1810work.aspx

It was either 37099 or 37254

Does anyone know anymore about their workings so I can have the camera ready next time!
 
It looks like hydrogen powered trains will supersede diesels on train lines without electrification. I look forward to their arrival, from what it says in the article, cleaner albeit more expensive, I assume costs will come down as more are made.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/scien...0/are-hydrogen-trains-the-future-of-uk-travel

I'm not so sure, with a 600 mile range, and very specialised fuelling facilities.

In a German context they would probably work because we have a lot of very small railway companies with short lines or tiny networks so the train can refuel en route, but in the UK the movements of trains tend to be more complex, and with the extra difficulties of making, storing and transporting hydrogen I'm not sure how well it would work. We have a few hydrogen buses in Stuttgart but they don't seem to be expanding the idea and the buses are always near to their fuelling stations.

Given the complexities of Hydrogen and the infrastructure needed for what essentially is a complex battery, I can't help thinking that ultimately rechargeable batteries will end up being more popular, because they can be charged at relatively simple points wherever there's an industrial power connection. We had battery powered railcars in Germany back in the 1960's and they worked very well.

What concerns me more is that this could end up being an excuse for politicians to delay or cancel electrification, because "In a few years we can use Hydrogen so it isn't needed."
 
I'm not so sure, with a 600 mile range, and very specialised fuelling facilities.

In a German context they would probably work because we have a lot of very small railway companies with short lines or tiny networks so the train can refuel en route, but in the UK the movements of trains tend to be more complex, and with the extra difficulties of making, storing and transporting hydrogen I'm not sure how well it would work. We have a few hydrogen buses in Stuttgart but they don't seem to be expanding the idea and the buses are always near to their fuelling stations.

Given the complexities of Hydrogen and the infrastructure needed for what essentially is a complex battery, I can't help thinking that ultimately rechargeable batteries will end up being more popular, because they can be charged at relatively simple points wherever there's an industrial power connection. We had battery powered railcars in Germany back in the 1960's and they worked very well.

What concerns me more is that this could end up being an excuse for politicians to delay or cancel electrification, because "In a few years we can use Hydrogen so it isn't needed."


It will be a shame if it isn't viable due to lack of political will or simply because of the cost of creating the infrastructure to make it work. It sounds great, with just water as the only emission.

I would love to see the whole rail network electrified, but I cannot see it happening in the near future, when/if we Brexit I doubt very much that the government will have money for such things.

I hope I am proven wrong.
 
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