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a.twiddler

Veteran
Blimey, how old are you @a.twiddler ?
Did you witness the Kaiser signing the armistice? :laugh:

I feel pretty ancient sometimes, and other times I still feel young at heart.

I was born in the reign of the Old Queen, but only just. Winston Churchill was Prime Minister. The De Havilland Comet had just gone into service with BOAC. British Railways were still building new steam engines, in fact we still had a comprehensive railway network with nowhere (apart from the remoter regions) being more than 15 miles from a railway station. Streets were empty of parked cars in most places. This was due to cars being unaffordable for most people though from the thirties onwards mass production had been slowly making them more affordable.
Food rationing was still in force. There were no motorways. "Unforgettable" by Nat King Cole was No 1 in the wireless charts. Or you could buy a 78rpm record for your gramophone or radiogram.
Capital punishment was still a thing. National Service also.
Many houses still had outside toilets and no bathrooms.

TV was a rarity, both due to the cost of a set, and lack of a signal in the regions. The TV sets then had tiny screens and were in black and white, often with a huge cabinet. Board games, reading, conversation were things that took its place. People would listen to the "wireless" which is what my parents' generation called the radio.

For entertainment, people would go to the cinema. Cinemas were easy to find. Your local fleapit would be quite cheap, or for a grander experience you could pay more to visit a swankier establishment. Better sound, bigger screen, more up to date films. Probably smelt better, too.
No one knew what a supermarket was. With limited transport, people shopped locally.
People tended not to travel much, when they did, it was an occasion, or for a particular reason.

Coal fires or coke stoves were everywhere. When the colder days came, so did the smoky sooty smells. I remember the feathery patterns of ice on the inside of bedroom windows in the winter. Well wrapped up in bed with a hot water bottle, we were fine.

Everybody smoked, non smokers stood out.
Most people had similar experiences in their lives. WWII and its related hardships was a common bond for many British people, for many years afterwards, but it must have been hard for people with different backgrounds to fit in. When people talk about the "good old days" it's probably because they were a member of a particular social group at that time.

I can't help feeling that people are much more accepting of others in our modern times, because we've been exposed to different viewpoints and a wider range of experiences than our forebears.

There you go.
That's how old I am!
 
Location
Wirral
I feel pretty ancient sometimes, and other times I still feel young at heart.

I was born in the reign of the Old Queen, but only just. Winston Churchill was Prime Minister. The De Havilland Comet had just gone into service with BOAC. British Railways were still building new steam engines, in fact we still had a comprehensive railway network with nowhere (apart from the remoter regions) being more than 15 miles from a railway station. Streets were empty of parked cars in most places. This was due to cars being unaffordable for most people though from the thirties onwards mass production had been slowly making them more affordable.
Food rationing was still in force. There were no motorways. "Unforgettable" by Nat King Cole was No 1 in the wireless charts. Or you could buy a 78rpm record for your gramophone or radiogram.
Capital punishment was still a thing. National Service also.
Many houses still had outside toilets and no bathrooms.

TV was a rarity, both due to the cost of a set, and lack of a signal in the regions. The TV sets then had tiny screens and were in black and white, often with a huge cabinet. Board games, reading, conversation were things that took its place. People would listen to the "wireless" which is what my parents' generation called the radio.

For entertainment, people would go to the cinema. Cinemas were easy to find. Your local fleapit would be quite cheap, or for a grander experience you could pay more to visit a swankier establishment. Better sound, bigger screen, more up to date films. Probably smelt better, too.
No one knew what a supermarket was. With limited transport, people shopped locally.
People tended not to travel much, when they did, it was an occasion, or for a particular reason.

Coal fires or coke stoves were everywhere. When the colder days came, so did the smoky sooty smells. I remember the feathery patterns of ice on the inside of bedroom windows in the winter. Well wrapped up in bed with a hot water bottle, we were fine.

Everybody smoked, non smokers stood out.
Most people had similar experiences in their lives. WWII and its related hardships was a common bond for many British people, for many years afterwards, but it must have been hard for people with different backgrounds to fit in. When people talk about the "good old days" it's probably because they were a member of a particular social group at that time.

I can't help feeling that people are much more accepting of others in our modern times, because we've been exposed to different viewpoints and a wider range of experiences than our forebears.

There you go.
That's how old I am!

70 isn't old
 
From one of the earlier posts I stumbled upon the Bristol Brabazon, never making it into production 2 prototypes were built. A massive plane and for 1949 could be considered well ahead of its time with fly by wire controls and a pressurised cabin, a first for a passenger aircraft. It was also intended to be double deckered though I don't know if that was the first.

Unfortunately it spent too long in developement and other aircraft came into existence (Boeing 707 and the Douglas DC8) that were more advanced again and the project was cancelled. A real missed opportunity I feel.

Overview


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Cabin Mockup
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All images and info from https://web.archive.org/web/2016040...uk/stories/pages.php?enum=ge121&pnum=0&maxp=9
 

classic33

Leg End Member
I feel pretty ancient sometimes, and other times I still feel young at heart.

I was born in the reign of the Old Queen, but only just. Winston Churchill was Prime Minister. The De Havilland Comet had just gone into service with BOAC. British Railways were still building new steam engines, in fact we still had a comprehensive railway network with nowhere (apart from the remoter regions) being more than 15 miles from a railway station. Streets were empty of parked cars in most places. This was due to cars being unaffordable for most people though from the thirties onwards mass production had been slowly making them more affordable.
Food rationing was still in force. There were no motorways. "Unforgettable" by Nat King Cole was No 1 in the wireless charts. Or you could buy a 78rpm record for your gramophone or radiogram.
Capital punishment was still a thing. National Service also.
Many houses still had outside toilets and no bathrooms.

TV was a rarity, both due to the cost of a set, and lack of a signal in the regions. The TV sets then had tiny screens and were in black and white, often with a huge cabinet. Board games, reading, conversation were things that took its place. People would listen to the "wireless" which is what my parents' generation called the radio.

For entertainment, people would go to the cinema. Cinemas were easy to find. Your local fleapit would be quite cheap, or for a grander experience you could pay more to visit a swankier establishment. Better sound, bigger screen, more up to date films. Probably smelt better, too.
No one knew what a supermarket was. With limited transport, people shopped locally.
People tended not to travel much, when they did, it was an occasion, or for a particular reason.

Coal fires or coke stoves were everywhere. When the colder days came, so did the smoky sooty smells. I remember the feathery patterns of ice on the inside of bedroom windows in the winter. Well wrapped up in bed with a hot water bottle, we were fine.

Everybody smoked, non smokers stood out.
Most people had similar experiences in their lives. WWII and its related hardships was a common bond for many British people, for many years afterwards, but it must have been hard for people with different backgrounds to fit in. When people talk about the "good old days" it's probably because they were a member of a particular social group at that time.

I can't help feeling that people are much more accepting of others in our modern times, because we've been exposed to different viewpoints and a wider range of experiences than our forebears.

There you go.
That's how old I am!
Just one problem, did Nat King Cole ever have a Number One hit?
 

Jameshow

Veteran
From one of the earlier posts I stumbled upon the Bristol Brabazon, never making it into production 2 prototypes were built. A massive plane and for 1949 could be considered well ahead of its time with fly by wire controls and a pressurised cabin, a first for a passenger aircraft. It was also intended to be double deckered though I don't know if that was the first.

Unfortunately it spent too long in developement and other aircraft came into existence (Boeing 707 and the Douglas DC8) that were more advanced again and the project was cancelled. A real missed opportunity I feel.

Overview


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Closeup


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Cabin Mockup
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All images and info from https://web.archive.org/web/2016040...uk/stories/pages.php?enum=ge121&pnum=0&maxp=9

What a beast!!
 
I saw an Autogyro this afternoon , it was flying East to West towards Bath. It was flying high so I couldn't make out much detail or colour .
 

a.twiddler

Veteran
Just one problem, did Nat King Cole ever have a Number One hit?

That is a problem, isn't it? It does seem that he had no UK number ones. Also, it seems that the earliest "official" chart listings started some time after my own time line started, so I can't verify who else had that position when I was born. My original (obviously erroneous) source of information is now unfindable. So, I have been a distributor of duff gen.
 
From one of the earlier posts I stumbled upon the Bristol Brabazon, never making it into production 2 prototypes were built. A massive plane and for 1949 could be considered well ahead of its time with fly by wire controls and a pressurised cabin, a first for a passenger aircraft. It was also intended to be double deckered though I don't know if that was the first.

Unfortunately it spent too long in developement and other aircraft came into existence (Boeing 707 and the Douglas DC8) that were more advanced again and the project was cancelled. A real missed opportunity I feel.

Overview


View attachment 676767

Closeup
View attachment 676768

Cabin Mockup
View attachment 676769

All images and info from https://web.archive.org/web/2016040...uk/stories/pages.php?enum=ge121&pnum=0&maxp=9

Never saw it but people used to say that it flew slowly. If you saw it flying over it would still be there half an hour later . :whistle:
 
The Princess flying boat was another large aircraft . I think it survived into the late 60's before being scrapped . There were thoughts about powering it by nuclear. How this would have been done is beyond me .
 

classic33

Leg End Member
The Princess flying boat was another large aircraft . I think it survived into the late 60's before being scrapped . There were thoughts about powering it by nuclear. How this would have been done is beyond me .
Used to "land" at Foynes on the Shannon Estuary. Later replaced by Shannon Airport.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
That is a problem, isn't it? It does seem that he had no UK number ones. Also, it seems that the earliest "official" chart listings started some time after my own time line started, so I can't verify who else had that position when I was born. My original (obviously erroneous) source of information is now unfindable. So, I have been a distributor of duff gen.
Yer olde memory playing tricks.
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
Few days ago, a couple big jets, one trailing the others wing, leaving multiple contrails, , headed east to west. Quite cloudy so couldn't get a look at specifics but given this is a military corridor, quite possibly B52s
 
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