The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

[DogTired]

Well I guess the insignificant ex-pro-cyclist who protested at Nike might have actually been right (and been effective) after all then. What's Red Light going to move on to now then now then now then?

No idea!

 

[rich p]

Well I guess the insignificant ex-pro-cyclist who protested at Nike might have actually been right (and been effective) after all then. What's Red Light going to move on to now?

...

Every little helps, as they say.
I didn't actually stop Blair invading Iraq but I'm still glad I went on the anti-war demo.

 

[Smokin Joe]

Well I guess the insignificant ex-pro-cyclist who protested at Nike might have actually been right (and been effective) after all then. What's Red Light going to move on to now?

And this also shows that dell and others may be wrong about Lance's financial and other interests not being affected by all this. The Americans may love a winner, but Armstrong is starting to look like a loser now, and once that happens he will sink like a stone. Now he's lost Livestrong and Nike, I suspect that even his political ambitions will have to put on hold for a very long time...

For ever.

Armstrong is finished, he still has his supporters but as everything sinks in and probably a lot more comes out even the Good 'ol Boys will desert him. He may slink off stage still a rich man, but he has long passed the stage where money was his motivator, power, respect and influence is what he craves and turning into a sick joke will hurt him more that anything else could.

 

[Dayvo]

What's Red Light going to move on to now?

Thomk's helmet thread!
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/helmet-saved-my-life-yesterday.115501/

The last few pages are enough for a further insight into the man's mind!

 

[Crackle]

I have to say I'm shocked. I need to read the detail when it comes out but I was not expecting any of that to happen so fast or so easily.

Of course, Nike dropped Woods and then quietly picked him up again a year later and they still have the Livestrong brand and Armstrong is still on the board there but really the speed of this has surprised me, there must have been lots of stuff going on in the background as they all worked out their damage limitation strategies.

 

[rich p]

Who's next, Oakley?

 

[rich p]

I see that Stuart O'Grady is shocked too at the revelations. Do they take us for idiots? Given that most of us have known the truth largely for years it seems implausible that Stewie was unaware.

 

[DogTired]

The speed is surprising, I was expecting at least to have to wait the 21 days for the UCI to release its verdict.

Considering the closeness of all concerned it could be indicative of which way the UCI will jump. Shows how bad the focus groups are reporting too...

 

[Smokin Joe]

I have to say I'm shocked. I need to read the detail when it comes out but I was not expecting any of that to happen so fast or so easily.

Of course, Nike dropped Woods and then quietly picked him up again a year later and they still have the Livestrong brand and Armstrong is still on the board there but really the speed of this has surprised me, there must have been lots of stuff going on in the background as they all worked out their damage limitation strategies.

Different case entirely, Wood's shennanigans had nothing to do with his golf and when the dust settled he was still a top player. Armstrong has been exposed as a bullying cheat and has retired so no chance to redeem himself on the bike.

 

[007fair]

As I have a professional interest I took a look at what CharityWatch (aka the American Institute of Philanthropy) have to say about Livestrong Foundation.

They score it A-

Feel free to read up on their methodology, assessment criteria and scoring.

Interesting They don't exactly lavish praise on Livestrong

'The Lance Armstrong Foundation (LAF), founded by the champion bicyclist and cancer survivor of the same name, is celebrating its 10-year anniversary this year. Wouldn’t you think a charity that receives massive publicity for having one of the most popular causes and most admired celebrities as the face of the organization would be able to easily raise lots of money? Unfortunately this is not the case. LAF spent as much as $45 to raise each $100, exceeding AIP’s 35% recommended fundraising ceiling by a significant margin. While LAF had difficulty raising contributions efficiently, it did prove to be a savvy merchandise marketer. LAF sold over $24 million in merchandise, including the ubiquitous yellow “LIVESTRONG” wristband, as well as clothing, sports gear and even dog leashes. Yet after spending $10 million in solicitation costs, the group brought in only $22 million in contributions, according to AIP’s analysis of LAF’s 2005 financial statements.'

 

[ohnovino]

Who's next, Oakley?

People on Twitter yesterday were claiming that all references to Lance are being removed from the Oakley stores.

 

[BalkanExpress]

People on Twitter yesterday were claiming that all references to Lance are being removed from the Oakley stores.

Once they hit the bargain bin I may finally be able to afford a pair

 

[Crosstrailer]

Just LA and Red Light who maintain Lance's innocence, then.

Nice one centurion !

 

[Panter]

Just LA and Red Light who maintain Lance's innocence, then.

No, and me, I'm just venting quietly.

Have to admit though, it does look as if there may be a sniff of substance to these vicious allegations.

*Sad face*

 

[Smokin Joe]