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yello

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Liggett wakes up and smells the coffee

PHIL LIGGETT: I, look, I admit I've, I've been very proud to commentate on Armstrong over these, over these years because I've seen a man and I've seen how he's battled the elements and I've seen how he's come forward, and I'm very sad. What do I think? Everybody else did it, so I find it very difficult not to think that Lance did it
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Taken from the Australian Broadcasting Corp program '4 Corners' (like the BBC's Panorama) which has just finished airing it's Amstrong investigation. Transcript here....

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2012/10/11/3608613.htm

Edit: the program is there too, I thought it would be geo-locked.
 
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yello

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yello said:
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2012/10/11/3608613.htm

Edit: the program is there too, I thought it would be geo-locked.
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F*** me. All I can say is watch it. If only for Liggett, damn near in tears, as he accepts the scale of the lie.

PHIL LIGGETT: I know the power of this man when he walks into the room and I know the hope he gives cancer survivors. I mean I don't know if he is proved to be, to have taken drugs how he can face any of these people. Because I mean he can, he can call up Barack Obama, he has his cell phone number on his cell phone, and how can you call up these people knowing that you've taken drugs all your life, to cheat to seven Tours? It's a problem I wouldn't want.
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Crosstrailer

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dellzeqq said:
The canonisation of Lance Armstrong will commence on Thursday, when he will be lauded for "15 years, of serving and empowering" 2.5 million cancer survivors. The following day Hollywood will pay its respects, in the form of a gala featuring Sean Penn, Ben Stiller and Robin Williams.

On Saturday, more than 100,000 American Football fans, and millions of TV viewers on ABC, will laud the cyclist, and his eponymous foundation, at the start of the second quarter of the College game between Baylor and the University of Texas. The entire student section, which seats 17,000, will simultaneously don specially designed Nike shirts, promoting Armstrong's Livestrong brand.

On Sunday 4,000 cyclists will pay $50 to participate in a challenge event in Armstrong's home town of Austin, Texas. His foundation's sponsors will underwrite performances by local drama groups, musical acts, and sporting activities ranging from tennis to yoga.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...fuses-to-accept-a-heros-downfall-8210381.html
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I had a look at the Nike livestrong collection (and boy are Nike really pitching this on the anti cancer don't mention the cycling ticket) and I can't help thinking they need to add a 'Cheat to win' T-shirt to the collection...

Hopefully the Baylor Bears will work Texas over anyway !
 
Flying_Monkey

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Like I said way back on the old thread, one of Armstrong's aims is elected office in Texas, and beyond. The beyond part might be out for now, but the Texas part is still very much on track.
 
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Crackle

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yello said:
It's not just about Armstrong either. It puts the doping in it's context and points a finger firmly at the UCI. A very well assembled documentary. I recommend that you watch it.

Edit: now on youtube in the event ABC geo-lock it


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q03sc8Aoyk0&feature=youtu.be
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Dick Pound quoting Verbruggen "It's the Spectators fault, they don't want to see riders doing 25Kph, they want to see them doing 41. So, the riders must prepare"

Incredible!

Maybe it's time to find another sport to follow.
 
DogTired

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Crackle said:
Dick Pound quoting Verbruggen "It's the Spectators fault, they don't want to see riders doing 25Kph, they want to see them doing 41. So, the riders must prepare"

Incredible!

Maybe it's time to find another sport to follow.
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The Dick Pound quote stuck out like a sore thumb - amazing! (its at about 38:30). Phil Liggett is obviously quite cut-up about the whole thing, how he never suspected anything is bizarre. LA's performance under oath, bearing in mind what is known now, is as brazen as humanly possible. An exemplary lesson in how to withstand a good legal grilling.
 
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yello

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I reckon Liggett's confused. In denial, seemingly pinging backwards and forwards trying to reconcile his emotions. I could actually be sympathetic if I felt he'd been duped.... but in his position I find it very very difficult to believe he wasn't aware of what was happening. Not just Armstrong but in cycling generally.
 
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Crackle

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Slightly off topic but did anyone see this report on a piece written by Joey Barton. I'm no fan of Barton but he's more astute than I gave him credit for and serves a timely reminder that Cycling is not the only sport with problems.
 
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