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ColinJ

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
Rest assured I shall share any useful information I can glean, once I inspect my bike (which is 70 miles away) which will not be for a few weeks (glad the ride was dry so it will not deteriorate from not being cleaned). Because convalescence and pain allow idle thought, I am trying not to beat myself up with the notion that I descended too quickly, or that once the tyre went my skills were wanting and a good rider would've kept it upright and at worst gone onto the verge/hedge in a controlled way. As we've seen upthread, Devon offers superbly 'undulating' terrain (glad you've been enjoying the terrain @ColinJ ) and I have my OS 1:50,000 map with all the chevrons in East Devon and have ascended and descended most of them (some many times): these offer a good variety of descents. You can't ride around (downhill) thinking 'I should allow for my front tyre blowing' - well not if you want to enjoy riding in Devon (and the Pennines, and Wales etc etc).
Thanks to all who've wished 'GWS' - it will be a race against time (31 Oct) to be sufficiently recovered to do 100.
I do have to fight the 'what if' thoughts when descending. I do it here all the time and I was doing it in Devon and Somerset too. Usually, if the road surface is good and I have a clear view of what is coming up then I don't hold back too much. If the surface is poor or I can't tell what is coming up then I slow down. Having said that, I might have been caught out by a tight gravelly bend in a dip last week but I spotted a hand-painted sign warning of it in advance. My cousin didn't see the sign but he was already descending cautiously so it didn't catch him out.

I think the biggest unavoidable threat is the risk of a lunatic driving too fast towards you down one of those singletrack lanes which has very high hedges down both sides. The few drivers that I encountered on them were driving sensibly but I read last week about some young idiot who hit other road users at high speed in one when trying to get away from the police.
 
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ColinJ

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
Well, you could try to avoid those lanes, but I think you would miss out on some fine routes if you did, or end up on some nasty busy roads!
 

Rickshaw Phil

Overconfidentii Vulgaris
Moderator
September 100 done, but maybe the last - read on.
An excellent ride - first two thirds of Barry's Jaeger Bomb 300 audax - perfect weather. Enjoyed the Fosse Way gravel section, feeling suitably bold as the gravel got deeper at the NE end.
Riding in a group, a swift first 70km; had a quick stop to control at Poulton, coinciding with the 9am assembly of about 50 riders from soi disant Performance Cycles. I enjoyed a quiche and a pint of milk from Lidl Amesbury (second control) before cutting through the Woodfords to the lovely Wylye valley, riding the latter in company with a 'fixed rider'. Stopped off to say hello to a friend who lives in Corton on the road NW of Wylye village. Onwards through Sutton Veny, Longbridge Deverill and Maiden Bradley (back in a small group after the village) through Kilmington to Alfred's Tower, above the Stourhead estate. I was due to stop for tea with a friend who lives just below the tower when, descending the wooded Kingsettle Hill at speed (?40kph) my front tyre blew (new on for LEL so about 2300km on it, the rear had another 1000 on it from Mille Pennines) and braking on a deflated front tyre didn't do it, and I lost it (together with any memory after the action of braking and keeping as straight as possible). Others in a group mostly from Stonehouse were right behind me and all I remember was being asked if I had a preference between Bath and Yeovil hospitals - I chose Yeovil (and went there by road (thanks to the air ambulance for attending too)). CT Scan and X-rays in A&E etc before transfer to ICU. Two days in ICU was enough - the punctured lung was stable and the multiple rib and shoulder blade fractures will apparently heal themselves. Discharged Monday evening and back home generally sore, battered, grazed and weak but will get better. Thanks to my fellow riders for calling the ambulance quickly, for agreeing to let a local take charge of my bike (which is fine apart from a punctured front tyre and a bit of scratching to the Brooks saddle and STIs), and for taking my saddle and top tube bags and GPS off my bike and sending them with me in the ambulance (NB really good practice; they even put one of my glasses' lenses in). I hope the my fellow riders were not too delayed on their ride, that my crash did not "spoil [their] ride" and that they enjoyed another 5 hours of excellent riding (we had taken 8:10 for the 200km so far). Sorry to have missed the ride over the Mendips, which would have been in daylight. Hey ho! When I recover my bike I shall ride the hill and try to see where I came off. When I think of the hills I've been down this year, Alfred's one is pretty innocuous (100m drop in a kilometre). The road west from Alfred's Tower seemed fine to me as I started down it (and I think I've been down there before) and consider I was in complete control, but until I go back I will not be able to make a decent objective assessment. I would like to know what made my tyre go (I was not braking much) and examination of the tube (idc - bike is now with the friend I was going to have tea with) will probably not shed much evidence on that. Hey ho! After 25,000km I guess statistics caught up with me, but I'd much prefer they didn't/hadn't. At least it was early in the month so if I can heal well, who knows if I can't keep the 100s going by a ride in late October :pump:. I am using this ride for both metric and imperial century challenges - force majeure.
Just catching up after a week away. I've given you a like for the write-up but :eek: for the incident. I hope you'll heal quickly.
 

Ajax Bay

Guru
Location
East Devon
I hope you'll heal quickly.
So do I, and thanks for your good wishes. Visit to the fracture clinic (and another set of x-rays) generated the same message: the bones will heal in time - let them get on and do it. Am reducing the codeine but yet to have a comfortable night. Will get on the turbo next week, at least that's the plan. Hope to be driving again by the end of the month (so I'll be able to train up and recover the car, and then go down and get my bike from near the 'scene'). Missed out on trip this weekend to Rotterdam for the World Age Group Triathlon Champs - where my daughter has just placed 4th in age group - would so like to have been there.
 
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GuyBoden

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Location
Warrington
So do I, and thanks for your good wishes. Visit to the fracture clinic (and another set of x-rays) generated the same message: the bones will heal in time - let them get on and do it. Am reducing the codeine but yet to have a comfortable night. Will get on the turbo next week, at least that's the plan. Hope to be driving again by the end of the month (so I'll be able to train up and recover the car, and then go down and get my bike from near the 'scene'). Missed out on trip this weekend to Rotterdam for the World Age Group Triathlon Champs - where my daughter has just placed 4th in age group - would so like to have been there.

Wow, 4th for her age group, I'm just back from Delft, Holland, there was a lot of rain last week.
@Ajax Bay. I hope you get back on your bike soon.
 

Fiona R

Formerly known as Cranky Knee Girl
Location
N Somerset
September 100 done, but maybe the last - read on.
Two days in ICU was enough - the punctured lung was stable and the multiple rib and shoulder blade fractures will apparently heal themselves. Discharged Monday evening and back home generally sore, battered, grazed and weak but will get better. Thanks to my fellow riders for calling the ambulance quickly, for agreeing to let a local take charge of my bike (which is fine apart from a punctured front tyre and a bit of scratching to the Brooks saddle and STIs), and for taking my saddle and top tube bags and GPS off my bike and sending them with me in the ambulance (NB really good practice; they even put one of my glasses' lenses in).

Flipping heck. Local audax to me, plenty of friends were riding it but I was away, can't do those distances anyway! I did do Wells Mells and Old Rail Trail Audax earlier in the year, opposite direction up St Alfreds, and with a car coming ended up walking, so descent is steepish. Flipping painful just for regular broken ribs. look after yourself.
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
September done. An imperial century from London to Coventry. Felt as if I had an anvil in my rack pack. I hadn't, I just had ineffective legs. But then I had a coconut Magnum. You heard, a Magnum with a coconut centre. After this blatant bit of chilled confectionary doping, and having removed the anvil, things picked up considerably.

That's right. A coconut Magnum.


Raspberry Magnum.. that's where the real life is DT
 

GuyBoden

Guru
Location
Warrington
I discovered today that the bridge at Hassall under the M6 is closed until at least March 2018, this route is part of @ColinJ Cheshire Ride.

But, for anyone using the route there's a nice alternative using Roughwood Lane. :okay:

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Ajax Bay

Guru
Location
East Devon
Do let us know what happened, if you're able to determine the cause of the failure (anecdata, I know, but nonetheless interesting in the way that potential failure modes are ;-) ).
An accident like @Ajax Bay makes you think
Well, exactly one month on from my ‘off’ I have recovered enough to drive. So I took the train up to Bristol/Keynsham to pick up my car (which had been recovered by a friend from the audax start) and then headed down to pick up my bike (which had been in the care of another friend who lives very close to the site of the accident). While there I drove up the hill: the scene of the accident - and slowly back down, recognising where my tyre had ‘blown’.
My posts describing/discussing the accident are here:
https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/t...a-month-challenge-chatzone.95264/post-4950192
https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/t...a-month-challenge-chatzone.95264/post-4952273
Apart from the front wheel my bike is relatively unscathed: the (1970s) Brooks ‘Competition’ saddle has been badly scuffed on the left back corner, but remains functional/useable; and the left hand STI is a bit scratched and was twisted in. The inner tube has a major snakebite in it: 11mm on one side and 9mm on the other, which will have caused/allowed the near instantaneous deflation I remember. There is a significant dink in one side of the rim where the puncture was. And there is damage to the left hand rim edge for about a third of the circumference, consistent with the rim attempting to roll on the road surface before saying ‘enough’. There is damage to the tyre sidewall in this area too. Of interest, the tyre had rotated about 20cm round the wheel (ie the maker’s logo was no longer aligned with the valve). I expect this happened when I tried to brake and the tyre gripped more on the road overcoming the friction between it and the rim.

All this supports my ‘analysis’ that coming down the hill, on the drops (always go on the drops downhill – much ‘stronger’ position and better leverage for braking), fingers lightly on both brakes, I suffered a near instant flat, and, after some immediate (swearing and) braking (which I remember) very shortly afterwards went over the bars landing supine, feet forward, first on my shoulder blade (crack) and that banged in to break ribs, one of which punctured my lung. My head then came down on its left side: the helmet is broken (cracked) and has friction damage. I was unconscious for an undetermined number of minutes. Because of how I fell, the helmet ‘wanted’ to come off: stopped from doing so by the helmet’s underchin strap which cut me and the sidestrap which had a go at my left ear (with a fair bit of blood (ears bleed easily)). This was the only damage to my head (lucky and protected) but my neck got a bit of a bashing – not surface but left/right and up/down stiffness/internal bruising. Substantial bruising (but not grazing) above my shoulder blade suggests I ‘bounced’ on that and serious grazing on my left arm/elbow and left hip suggests that I slid on those two main points till stationary. Other sites of grazing ‘are available’ – all now healed.

Lucky I was that others were right behind me (and called 999 etc). They thought I had gone down the hill ‘too fast’ (I have this on heresay, third hand) and maybe this is so, but they will not have known that I’d suffered a puncture when descending. Whether this would have altered their judgement I know not. Whether a lesser speed and their riding skills would have allowed them to stay upright in the event of a flat will not be tested, I hope.

I do not know what caused the snakebite. The tyre (Michelin Pro4 SC 25-622) was new on before London-Edinburgh-London and so had done about 2300km – I’d expect about 6000km from that make/model of tyre on the front. I had checked my tyres before the ride and the front was at 75psi (5psi more than the graph readout in Jan Heine’s BQ article: actual width 26.7mm, total load 85kg, front 38kg, rear 47kg). It is possible it had lost pressure during the 199km I had ridden. I checked the rear 31 days later: it was at 72spsi (same tyre make/model) - I had inflated it to 90psi before the ride). The road was clear and, having examined the surface by both driving up and down it and walking up and down the stretch where the flat occurred, the surface is good, with no potholes. The side of the road is a bank so I guess the only possibility is a largish stone: the sort of stone you can see and avoid as you ride down hills, I’d like to think. Maybe/clearly not this time.

What lessons can I learn from this incident?

1) A ‘fast’ puncture going at speed is likely to cause the rider to crash, especially if any braking or turning is needed.

2) Don’t apply any front brake (or release it if it’s already being used). Shift weight back to get as much effect from the back brake as possible.

3) Stay as straight as possible.

4) Check tyre pressures before each ride. Do a thumb check on each tyre at every stop (well, every couple of hours).

I have decided that the rim cannot be satisfactorily repaired and since the wheel/hub/spokes (Mavic MA3 on a Tiagra HB-4400) have done 25,000+km, it’s not worth lacing a new rim on. And I'm not sure how much damage has been done to the tyre sidewall so I'm reluctantly retiring that (to the bin) too. I have another similar front wheel: an Ambrosio Excursion rim on a 105 32 spoke hub which now has a new Continental GP 4 Seasons 28-622 tyre on, ready for when I’m able to ride again (hopefully in a fortnight or so). The Brooks saddle is off and being saved for long rides next year and the STI is straightened. All good. Almost off the pain killers now – just using for overnight comfort in an effort to achieve more sleep (still a challenge). Just need the bones to complete their healing, and to regain both mobility and strength in my left arm/shoulder and my neck.

Some may suggest I’m ‘overthinking’ this accident. But a month of work and 6+ weeks off the bike gives one ample time for overthinking. I hope some may find some of the facts and analysis interesting.
 
That's a 'like' for the impressive and interesting forensic analysis. I hope the recovery continues well and that you manage to get back out by the end of October.

I'd like to think that tubeless tyres have less chance of suffering a sudden failure of that sort. Tricky to prove a negative of course.
 
Well, exactly one month on from my ‘off’ I have recovered enough to drive. So I took the train up to Bristol/Keynsham to pick up my car (which had been recovered by a friend from the audax start) and then headed down to pick up my bike (which had been in the care of another friend who lives very close to the site of the accident). While there I drove up the hill: the scene of the accident - and slowly back down, recognising where my tyre had ‘blown’.
My posts describing/discussing the accident are here:
https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/t...a-month-challenge-chatzone.95264/post-4950192
https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/t...a-month-challenge-chatzone.95264/post-4952273
Apart from the front wheel my bike is relatively unscathed: the (1970s) Brooks ‘Competition’ saddle has been badly scuffed on the left back corner, but remains functional/useable; and the left hand STI is a bit scratched and was twisted in. The inner tube has a major snakebite in it: 11mm on one side and 9mm on the other, which will have caused/allowed the near instantaneous deflation I remember. There is a significant dink in one side of the rim where the puncture was. And there is damage to the left hand rim edge for about a third of the circumference, consistent with the rim attempting to roll on the road surface before saying ‘enough’. There is damage to the tyre sidewall in this area too. Of interest, the tyre had rotated about 20cm round the wheel (ie the maker’s logo was no longer aligned with the valve). I expect this happened when I tried to brake and the tyre gripped more on the road overcoming the friction between it and the rim.

All this supports my ‘analysis’ that coming down the hill, on the drops (always go on the drops downhill – much ‘stronger’ position and better leverage for braking), fingers lightly on both brakes, I suffered a near instant flat, and, after some immediate (swearing and) braking (which I remember) very shortly afterwards went over the bars landing supine, feet forward, first on my shoulder blade (crack) and that banged in to break ribs, one of which punctured my lung. My head then came down on its left side: the helmet is broken (cracked) and has friction damage. I was unconscious for an undetermined number of minutes. Because of how I fell, the helmet ‘wanted’ to come off: stopped from doing so by the helmet’s underchin strap which cut me and the sidestrap which had a go at my left ear (with a fair bit of blood (ears bleed easily)). This was the only damage to my head (lucky and protected) but my neck got a bit of a bashing – not surface but left/right and up/down stiffness/internal bruising. Substantial bruising (but not grazing) above my shoulder blade suggests I ‘bounced’ on that and serious grazing on my left arm/elbow and left hip suggests that I slid on those two main points till stationary. Other sites of grazing ‘are available’ – all now healed.

Lucky I was that others were right behind me (and called 999 etc). They thought I had gone down the hill ‘too fast’ (I have this on heresay, third hand) and maybe this is so, but they will not have known that I’d suffered a puncture when descending. Whether this would have altered their judgement I know not. Whether a lesser speed and their riding skills would have allowed them to stay upright in the event of a flat will not be tested, I hope.

I do not know what caused the snakebite. The tyre (Michelin Pro4 SC 25-622) was new on before London-Edinburgh-London and so had done about 2300km – I’d expect about 6000km from that make/model of tyre on the front. I had checked my tyres before the ride and the front was at 75psi (5psi more than the graph readout in Jan Heine’s BQ article: actual width 26.7mm, total load 85kg, front 38kg, rear 47kg). It is possible it had lost pressure during the 199km I had ridden. I checked the rear 31 days later: it was at 72spsi (same tyre make/model) - I had inflated it to 90psi before the ride). The road was clear and, having examined the surface by both driving up and down it and walking up and down the stretch where the flat occurred, the surface is good, with no potholes. The side of the road is a bank so I guess the only possibility is a largish stone: the sort of stone you can see and avoid as you ride down hills, I’d like to think. Maybe/clearly not this time.

What lessons can I learn from this incident?

1) A ‘fast’ puncture going at speed is likely to cause the rider to crash, especially if any braking or turning is needed.

2) Don’t apply any front brake (or release it if it’s already being used). Shift weight back to get as much effect from the back brake as possible.

3) Stay as straight as possible.

4) Check tyre pressures before each ride. Do a thumb check on each tyre at every stop (well, every couple of hours).

I have decided that the rim cannot be satisfactorily repaired and since the wheel/hub/spokes (Mavic MA3 on a Tiagra HB-4400) have done 25,000+km, it’s not worth lacing a new rim on. And I'm not sure how much damage has been done to the tyre sidewall so I'm reluctantly retiring that (to the bin) too. I have another similar front wheel: an Ambrosio Excursion rim on a 105 32 spoke hub which now has a new Continental GP 4 Seasons 28-622 tyre on, ready for when I’m able to ride again (hopefully in a fortnight or so). The Brooks saddle is off and being saved for long rides next year and the STI is straightened. All good. Almost off the pain killers now – just using for overnight comfort in an effort to achieve more sleep (still a challenge). Just need the bones to complete their healing, and to regain both mobility and strength in my left arm/shoulder and my neck.

Some may suggest I’m ‘overthinking’ this accident. But a month of work and 6+ weeks off the bike gives one ample time for overthinking. I hope some may find some of the facts and analysis interesting.

Fantastic analysis, just wish you hadn't had the accident and so didn't have to write it!
 
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