djtheglove said:[/b]
That's it Paul, youv'e just answered your own grievance, it's because of the Hormones they are like that!
I remember I was horrible at that age too, teenagers have specific needs that no one but themselves can give them!
It's all to do with finding their own independance!
and it's not their fault and it is unfair to persecute them for it!
Wasn't a grievance, merely an observation that nothing in this world comes free and there's a price to pay for everything.
And you SHOULD persecute them for it. After all, they'll do enough to persecute you! In my opinion, it's never too early to start, either