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Spartak

Spartak

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Bristolian
And relegated by November...

Hopefully :smile:
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
another inept performance. Never mind Johnson - can somebody tell me why the Irish midfielders beat the English midfielders to the ball seven times out of midnight.
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Fatso is a busted flush, never seen any player live off a reputation (a long ago one) for so long. It's mad, he needs to drop into the Championship to get some decent game time. I think he would suit Barnsley.
 
Ah well no Britain's Got Talent tonight on ITV -- Just Ireland and England have no Talent. I despair at Trapatoni.. He had to be almost directed by the FAI to give Seamus Coleman a cap.. nearly threw McCarthy out of the squad. Simon Cox managed to stop Walter's goalbound header from crossing the line, while someone explain why those 2 guys from Derby were on the pitch when we needed the likes of Robbie Brady and Hoolihan to hold the ball instead. Worryingly our defence is very poor -- Lampard waltzed in for that goal. Still at least the FA and I presume the FAI made a few bob out of the exercise. Don't understand the 'you'll never beat the Irish' chant.. Those fans obviously missed Euro2012 and subsequent 6 -1 defeat to Germany. The footballing might of Georgia and the Faroe Islands next.. before Austria/Germany and Sweden. Somehow I don't see Irish Jigs and Reels mixing with the Samba beat in Rio next year.
 

postman

Squire
Location
,Leeds
England team sheet for Irish game.In goal Dyer,right back Dyer,left back Dyer,right half Dyer centre half Dyer left half Dyer,and so and on.
 

brodiej

Veteran
Location
Waindell,
Ah well no Britain's Got Talent tonight on ITV -- Just Ireland and England have no Talent. I despair at Trapatoni.. He had to be almost directed by the FAI to give Seamus Coleman a cap.. nearly threw McCarthy out of the squad. Simon Cox managed to stop Walter's goalbound header from crossing the line, while someone explain why those 2 guys from Derby were on the pitch when we needed the likes of Robbie Brady and Hoolihan to hold the ball instead. Worryingly our defence is very poor -- Lampard waltzed in for that goal. Still at least the FA and I presume the FAI made a few bob out of the exercise. Don't understand the 'you'll never beat the Irish' chant.. Those fans obviously missed Euro2012 and subsequent 6 -1 defeat to Germany. The footballing might of Georgia and the Faroe Islands next.. before Austria/Germany and Sweden. Somehow I don't see Irish Jigs and Reels mixing with the Samba beat in Rio next year.

I'm very puzzled by Hoolahan never getting near the pitch under Trapatoni.

He always looks Norwich's best player - versatile midfielder, great left foot, scores goals in team that finished 11th in the Prem. while the Irish midfield is crammed with mediocrity.

I suppose he would argue you drew - but boring pragmatism (ignoring skilful and successful players in favour of midfield workhorses from mid-championship level teams) seems very depressing especially in a friendly
 

bof

Senior member. Oi! Less of the senior please
Location
The world
Why did England play old warhorses? FFS its an end of season friendly - surely time to blood a bunch of youngsters. Bringing on Leighton Baines towards the end - excellent player though he is - just summed up the pointlessness of it all.
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
Glen Johnson! Somebody please explain Glen Johnson to me! Watching his moobs roll down the wing reminds one of nothing so much as a Daily Telegraph leader column in search of a decent argument
I'll explain Glen Johnson to you. I see you had a go at him in a previous post and can only conclude the only exposure you have to him is on England outings. I can't speak for him in the odious international version of the game but I can speak for him at club level and of all the players my team have ever had, he is right there amongst the best. His control of the highest, fastest, most awkard-angled deliveries (I'm not going to load anyone's guns by writing 'balls' but that's what I mean) is often worth the entry fee alone. I know we've had some talented defenders who can't defend but look very good going forward but he doesn't come into that category defensively. He CAN defend and he's mobile, gifted and direct. He does remind me of John Barnes and Digger was mercilessly criticised in an England shirt but on his club-level performances, there was no option but to pick him for the national team, then play him out of position, with inferior team mates and a southern-based press with their poisoned pens ready to offer him up as their sacrifice to the football gods.

If you persist in thinking he's somehow 'not good enough', then it's likely you're getting that opinion from someone with an agenda or you have a vendetta against him personally for some reason.
 

mark st1

Plastic Manc
Location
Leafy Berkshire
Oh shock another "he is one of our greatest ever players" posts. Im sure you lot just wrap everything up in bull shoot in order to cover up your teams persistent failings year in year out. I bet this time next year Kolo Toure will be a "Kop Hero" and 1 of the best defenders in the world. :tired:
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
Paul - I think he's not good enough because I see him caught out of position, rounded with ease and luzzing what would be perfect crosses in to the penalty area if only there was an England shirt in the vicinity. I don't have a vendetta against him - I just don't think that he's very good.

(Mine you, such is the dearth at right back that I'm not entirely sure I know of a better candidate)
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
Paul - I think he's not good enough because I see him caught out of position, rounded with ease and luzzing what would be perfect crosses in to the penalty area if only there was an England shirt in the vicinity. I don't have a vendetta against him - I just don't think that he's very good.

(Mine you, such is the dearth at right back that I'm not entirely sure I know of a better candidate)
Whether he's good enough for England or not is totally irrelevant to me. The fact is, at club level, like Digger, it would be impossible to look beyond him and give the shirt to somebody else. It reminds me exactly of the misdirected criticism that came the way of another Liverpool right back whenever he played for England. He got four European cups but still came in for this kind of nonsense. Glen Johnson is a fantastic player and if there isn't a better English right back (and there isn't), you should perhaps direct the criticism at the Football Association and the current set up, not lay all the blame at his door. After all, you can only kiss with the pock you've got, as they say.
 

Yellow Fang

Legendary Member
Location
Reading
I saw the 2nd half in the pub last night. England looked the much better team. Maybe they lacked a cutting edge, but Ireland were lucky to get away with a draw imo.
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
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