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HMS_Dave

Grand Old Lady
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...s-euro-2020-final-b1882271.html#comments-area

That's a pretty damning article.

As for the game, England were undoubtedly the better side for the first 20 minutes but after that it was all Italy, once they shut down the supply to the wings. Chiesa was running riot on the left until he was done by Phillips.

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That's an accurate reflection of the game.
Yes, there are always a minority of fans which plague the game. This really is nothing new, sadly but is also not isolated to England or English fans. Check out Koln supporters rioting at the end of the bundesliga season this year for example, although that in no ways detracts from my condemnation of the idiots that ruin it for everybody else, especially a team representing our nation. It is part of the reason i support the pokey little club that is Walsall FC. An 11300 capacity stadium which is never more than half full, unless we are playing the baggies or wolves and occasionally salopsbury. Always a more friendly atmosphere that is shared by most clubs ive been too on my travels, with the exception of Millwall and Crystal Palace... Sad really.
 
No doubt plenty of Sturgeon's mob will take the day off anyway, after getting 'pisched up' last night celebrating a team lose rather than a team win. Something you're used to eh! 🧐
Only 2 teams England couldn’t beat in the tournament. Us and Italy.
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
The last Englishman to manage an English team to become Champions of Europe. In Rome against Roma!

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Allison, Firmino and Fabinho don't start, Brazil lose. Thiago doesn't start, Spain lose. Henderson doesn't start, England lose. Anyone see a pattern here?
 
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roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
Ah well. England deserved the first half lead but Italy clearly better in the end. England seemed to panic after the equaliser, knocking endless long balls to no-one.

Southgate's penalty subs a disastrous decision, but in another world he'd be being lauded as the tactical genius who brought it home.

Onwards to... ...Qatar. FFS.
 
Anyhow it's all done now, the saddo sweaties can put their avatars back to something that means even less and can ignore the Football thread till the next big tournament, us regular football fans can talk about the upcoming season and look forward to being in the grounds.
Well done ENGLAND.
I mentioned SWEATIES in a post and got chucked off the forum for three days:ohmy:
I am gutted about the England defeat but looking ahead to actually watching some live football at the London Stadium ⚒
 
The England team have progressed well under Southgate particularly on eradicating defensive frailties. The tactic of playing Calvin Phillips and Declan Rice together as midfield holding players has been hugely successful in this.
However, the major weakness in the style of play which needs to be addressed is that in each game after an initial high tempo start the attacking build up becomes too slow and lacks penetration. It is strange that with such creative players as Grealish and Foden, Southgate continues to use them as just 'bit part' players. He needs to give them a run of full games but I feel he is too cautious to do this.
 

Brandane

Legendary Member
Location
Costa Clyde
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...otland-fans-clean-up-litter-in-central-london

I wonder how many ENGLAND fans are helping to clean up the mess in Leicester Square this morning? Mind you, they would need a team of glaziers to fix the shop windows that were "allegedly" trashed; not to mention bus windows smashed by missiles.
 

VelvetUnderpants

Über Member
Yes, there are always a minority of fans which plague the game. This really is nothing new, sadly but is also not isolated to England or English fans. Check out Koln supporters rioting at the end of the bundesliga season this year for example, although that in no ways detracts from my condemnation of the idiots that ruin it for everybody else, especially a team representing our nation. It is part of the reason i support the pokey little club that is Walsall FC. An 11300 capacity stadium which is never more than half full, unless we are playing the baggies or wolves and occasionally salopsbury. Always a more friendly atmosphere that is shared by most clubs ive been too on my travels, with the exception of Millwall and Crystal Palace... Sad really.

Italy were the better team and deserved the win, saying that we reached our first final since 66 and that's something to be proud of. I felt we sat back and played far to deep in the second half and Grealish should have been on the pitch way earlier in the game, Southgate's choice of penalty takers wasn't great, but overall it's been a great Euros.

Back to watching our respective clubs very soon, I am looking forward to the annual friendly against Walsall, hopefully with a full stadium, pie and a pint.

UTV
 

Chislenko

Veteran
Yes, there are always a minority of fans which plague the game. This really is nothing new, sadly but is also not isolated to England or English fans. Check out Koln supporters rioting at the end of the bundesliga season this year for example, although that in no ways detracts from my condemnation of the idiots that ruin it for everybody else, especially a team representing our nation. It is part of the reason i support the pokey little club that is Walsall FC. An 11300 capacity stadium which is never more than half full, unless we are playing the baggies or wolves and occasionally salopsbury. Always a more friendly atmosphere that is shared by most clubs ive been too on my travels, with the exception of Millwall and Crystal Palace... Sad really.


Can I just say me and three other lads got set upon by about 50 Walsall lads at Fellows Park.
 

MrGrumpy

Huge Member
Location
Fly Fifer
Unlucky England . Just not enough in the end. Young side who could go onto bigger and better maybe?

On the other hand Italy , didn’t even qualify for last major tournament, rebuilt quickly and have won the next?! What do England lack ? They have been building for years !?
 
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