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Chromatic

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It's not an argument, all I'm doing is pointing out that outwith the Old Firm the SPL is very competitive. It hasn't always been 'those two' either.


According to this those two have won 105 titles between them, everyone else manage 19 titles combined, and I imagine a lot of them were in the early days of the leagues.

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Chromatic

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Gloucestershire
If it's any help I follow Albion Rovers, like to get up there at least once a season. Success is not a word you can associate with Albion.

For some strange reason, since I live in rugby country and am not all that fussed about football, I do keep an eye out for how Stenhousemuir get on.
 

PaulB

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Colne
As we're on Scottish football;

RIP Ian St. John. An early hero of mine. As a five year-old, I was too scared to enjoy Liverpool's first ever FA Cup Final win because I was about to have my tonsils out that very afternoon (I know, a Saturday operation!) and the last word the anaesthetist said to me before I dropped out was about Ian St. John who'd got the winner.

Like the priests who wandered around the classroom that had just received a new consignment of desks and caned any boy who had defaced the pristine wood except for that one who got words of praise. He'd carved in to his desk, 'St. John'.
 

postman

Squire
Location
,Leeds
I have also just found out about Ian St John,anyone of my age 71 a d from Leeds will not forget than wonderful header.15 at the time I was devastated I followed Leeds all over.He was brilliant on telly,I wonder if someone has told Jimmy,he is not well also.Thank you guys for your honest opinions on football
not like today's dross.
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
According to this those two have won 105 titles between them, everyone else manage 19 titles combined, and I imagine a lot of them were in the early days of the leagues.

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Yeah. You could create a pretty similar graph for England.

It would go Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal.

Then it would tail off into single figures for other clubs.

The English top flight is just as dominated by certain clubs as the Scottish.
 

Chromatic

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Yeah. You could create a pretty similar graph for England.

It would go Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal.

Then it would tail off into single figures for other clubs.

The English top flight is just as dominated by certain clubs as the Scottish.

True, it would go Mancheater United , Liverpool, Arsenal and then tail off, but to get to 105 English league titles it would take the combined wins of 14 different clubs.
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
True, it would go Mancheater United , Liverpool, Arsenal and then tail off, but to get to 105 English league titles it would take the combined wins of 14 different clubs.

The number isn't really my point. The top flights of most leagues are dominated by a handful of clubs. Spain, Italy, Germany, Portugal, The Netherlands. I could go on.

The EPL is just a money-fest these days. All the chat is around getting into the top 4 or avoiding relegation. And if that's your thing, then cool. But it isn't mine.
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
Yeah. You could create a pretty similar graph for England.

It would go Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal.

Then it would tail off into single figures for other clubs.

The English top flight is just as dominated by certain clubs as the Scottish.
No, it would go liverpool, man utd, arsenal......as liverpool are now leading the major trophy table
 

AndyRM

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Location
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No, it would go liverpool, man utd, arsenal......as liverpool are now leading the major trophy table

Because I was bored, I did some research.

I've looked at both Manchester United and Liverpool, and counted up top flight wins, the League and FA Cups and the European Cup.

Honours are even at 40 each.
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
Because I was bored, I did some research.

I've looked at both Manchester United and Liverpool, and counted up top flight wins, the League and FA Cups and the European Cup.

Honours are even at 40 each.
Yet every major table i have seen has liverpool clear by 1 trophy...........best you do more research.

and dont forget other european trophies, super cups, world club cups as they all count as major honours

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