The booze-quittin' buddy thread!

[The Jogger]

Well don't buy any then.
Diff'rent strokes... and all that, eh?

And cheers to you.

 

[martint235]

I really don't see the point in alcohol free lager, I certainly wouldn't drink it for taste or effect and it could lead to other things.

If you read Allen Carr's "The Easy Way to Control Alcohol" he puts forward the argument that we actually need to be conditioned to enjoy the taste of beer, wine etc and this is done by society placing what is considered an obligation on us to drink by peer pressure and it being the "norm". Certainly, thinking back to childhood I remember hating the taste of alcohol but then I practiced lots and lots and lots until I got used to it.

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

If you read Allen Carr's "The Easy Way to Control Alcohol" he puts forward the argument that we actually need to be conditioned to enjoy the taste of beer, wine etc and this is done by society placing what is considered an obligation on us to drink by peer pressure and it being the "norm". Certainly, thinking back to childhood I remember hating the taste of alcohol but then I practiced lots and lots and lots until I got used to it.

Then you get stuck in the addiction cycle....

http://ac.els-cdn.com/S089662731100...t=1389789539_a6336ad7c306ee8c7110a12c95aab56a

 

[Steve H]

Sat in an airport lounge staring at free booze. Thought I had this January cracked, but there's still some tests ahead of me.

 

[Cletus Van Damme]

I've just started cutting down again this week and getting back on the bike. I did for a lot of last year but the last couple of months when the weather got crappy I stopped cycling and started drinking a few beers each night and a short or 3. I put a bit of weight on fairly quickly and generally just felt lethargic and a bit down in the mornings. Since cutting down the effect is more or less instant, I'm getting up earlier and feeling much brighter, I wish I could stop altogether as in my case I find alcohol a bit self destructive as I tend to drink more when I'm feeling a bit down and in-turn it just makes it worse.

Good luck to everybody else

 

[Andrew_Culture]

I've just had a filling fall out and haven't got my 'emergency' appointment until Monday. If more of it falls out and exposes the nerve I'm going to fall off the wagon pretty quickly!

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

I've just had a filling fall out and haven't got my 'emergency' appointment until Monday. If more of it falls out and exposes the filling I'm going to fall off the wagon pretty quickly!

Co codamol would be better.

 

[The Jogger]

If you read Allen Carr's "The Easy Way to Control Alcohol" he puts forward the argument that we actually need to be conditioned to enjoy the taste of beer, wine etc and this is done by society placing what is considered an obligation on us to drink by peer pressure and it being the "norm". Certainly, thinking back to childhood I remember hating the taste of alcohol but then I practiced lots and lots and lots until I got used to it.

It depends on whether you have an addiction or not. You know, if you don't have a problem you can continue to drink normally, if you are suffering from the effects of alcohol either physically or mentally ( I don't mean just the normal hangover) then the chances are you do have a problem. People come out with all sorts of whacky ideas that in most cases people end up back on it. The best way I know of controlling alcohol if you do have a problem with it, is abstinence. If you are talking about books on the subject, the most successful book, with undoubtedly the best proven results, is the Big Book in Alcoholics Anonymous.

 

[Andrew_Culture]

Co codamol would be better.

Yes!

 

[Andrew_Culture]

It depends on whether you have an addiction or not. You know, if you don't have a problem you can continue to drink normally, if you are suffering from the effects of alcohol either physically or mentally ( I don't mean just the normal hangover) then the chances are you do have a problem. People come out with all sorts of whacky ideas that in most cases people end up back on it. The best way I know of controlling alcohol if you do have a problem with it, is abstinence. If you are talking about books on the subject, the most successful book, with undoubtedly the best proven results, is the Big Book in Alcoholics Anonymous.

Out of interest what would you class as 'not an normal hangover'?

 

[The Jogger]

I've just started cutting down again this week and getting back on the bike. I did for a lot of last year but the last couple of months when the weather got crappy I stopped cycling and started drinking a few beers each night and a short or 3. I put a bit of weight on fairly quickly and generally just felt lethargic and a bit down in the mornings. Since cutting down the effect is more or less instant, I'm getting up earlier and feeling much brighter, I wish I could stop altogether as in my case I find alcohol a bit self destructive as I tend to drink more when I'm feeling a bit down and in-turn it just makes it worse.

Good luck to everybody else

You have solved your own problem within your post.

 

[martint235]

The title of AC 'so book is misleading, it is about giving up as opposed to controlling. It's worth a read as it's a different approach to AA. It's about removing the conditioning put in place since childhood. It's worth a look if you don't feel AA is for you

 

[The Jogger]

Out of interest what would you class as 'not an normal hangover'?

In my case it would have started gradually, I use to feel rough but not just rough, I started getting panic attacks triggered by the hangover. It was a bit of a vicious circle for me as I was always keen to get the hare of the dog. I would sometimes feel very jittery and jumpy. I would lack confidence but when I had the cure, things would seem to improve, for a while. But it affects different people differently, the not so normal hangover.

 

[The Jogger]

The title of AC 'so book is misleading, it is about giving up as opposed to controlling. It's worth a read as it's a different approach to AA. It's about removing the conditioning put in place since childhood. It's worth a look if you don't feel AA is for you

Sorry, I wasn't aware if it promotes giving up for those with a problem, then it might be worth a read for some......

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

It depends on whether you have an addiction or not. You know, if you don't have a problem you can continue to drink normally, if you are suffering from the effects of alcohol either physically or mentally ( I don't mean just the normal hangover) then the chances are you do have a problem. People come out with all sorts of whacky ideas that in most cases people end up back on it. The best way I know of controlling alcohol if you do have a problem with it, is abstinence. If you are talking about books on the subject, the most successful book, with undoubtedly the best proven results, is the Big Book in Alcoholics Anonymous.

Longitudinal studies show over 8 years that AA is no more effective than any other type of help such as tapering off or NHS model of recovery.