oldwheels
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The luxury ones owned by kids with rich parents had a ring attaching the stick to the hoop. I only ever had a loose bit of stick.
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The luxury ones owned by kids with rich parents had a ring attaching the stick to the hoop. I only ever had a loose bit of stick.
Fredo76
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My view is that of a software engineer. Your statement is silly, but your imagination is running wild!
Drago
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- Suburban Poshshire
How the foxtrot would an ex squaddie like me do any of that?
Indeed, how would the average cyclist do any of that?
"That's no problem, you can maintain sufficient magnetic flux within a 6 metre plasma toroid by firing lasers into a thermonuclear alarm clock..."
We were being told just 2 pages back by DogmaStu that these systems are simplicity themselves, yet here you are now telling us otherwise.
PedallingNowhereSlowly
Senior Member
Used to like riding fixed gear for it's ease of maintenance and simplicity. If I was fit enough and riding everyday, it's probably what I'd revert back to.
Well, if I could get one with disk brakes. There are a few around with disk brakes and eccentric bottom brackets.
Honestly, I think disk brakes are the biggest single advancement in road cycling for non-pro-athletes. That, and sensible cleats. The rest - it needs to just work and be easy to maintain. I rode a bike with friction shifters on the down tube for a couple of seasons. You can get used to that. It's fine. Crap brakes ... that's unbearable.
And anything that needs an app ... well that's just annoying. The smart phone has just become a key part of the cycling eco-system. Speaking as an IT person, that's going to cause some people pain one day. Still didn't stop me buying a Di2 equipped bike though, did it? The electronic shifting is glorious. At least for now.
Well, if I could get one with disk brakes. There are a few around with disk brakes and eccentric bottom brackets.
Honestly, I think disk brakes are the biggest single advancement in road cycling for non-pro-athletes. That, and sensible cleats. The rest - it needs to just work and be easy to maintain. I rode a bike with friction shifters on the down tube for a couple of seasons. You can get used to that. It's fine. Crap brakes ... that's unbearable.
And anything that needs an app ... well that's just annoying. The smart phone has just become a key part of the cycling eco-system. Speaking as an IT person, that's going to cause some people pain one day. Still didn't stop me buying a Di2 equipped bike though, did it? The electronic shifting is glorious. At least for now.
Illaveago
Guru
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How is the electric shifting powered?
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
Thing is, you can still quite easily run an 80s style bike with new components. There's nothing stopping you from putting, say, friction shifters on ... I dunno ... a Surly steel frame with an 8 speed or 9 speed cassette. You can have best of both worlds and run disc brakes with it maybe too.
OK you'd probably be forced into having a threadless headset, and you'd have to say goodbye to having a screw-on freewheel but if you don't want modern stuff just don't buy it. No need to bellyache about it, no-ones forcing you to use it.
OK you'd probably be forced into having a threadless headset, and you'd have to say goodbye to having a screw-on freewheel but if you don't want modern stuff just don't buy it. No need to bellyache about it, no-ones forcing you to use it.
StuAff
Silencing his legs regularly
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- Portsmouth
(i) They're not complicated. Really.
(ii) I would hazard a guess Shimano, SRAM, Campagnolo et al will stop issuing firmware updates (and making new spare parts, more importantly) for a given groupset before this is a potential problem with that given group. Hardware, i.e. a broken derailleur, shifter, etc will be a bigger problem than the software. Already is, unfortunately.
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Rusty Nails
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This is one aspect which has certainly complicated matters, even within the same manufacturer, especially with modern drive trains where compatibility seems to be a way of manufacturers making more money.
Punkawallah
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gbb
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And that reflects my views in the slab fronted cars thread, it's just evolution, fashion, taste, whatever. Things move on, it's inevitable
Let's be honest here...which self respecting cycling loon doesn't have one of these stashed in the dark recesses of a toolbox somewhere 😁
oldwheels
Legendary Member
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To add to that we called them girds.
Alex321
Guru
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- South Wales
Some of the younger ones, who may never have owned a bike with anything but allen bolts.
Hence.. loons.
