The 8 o’clock nhs clapping

[randynewmanscat]

I get the whole clapping thing, but with or without this horrible virus don’t the NHS still do a stellar job saving peoples lives? I think they do. How come they don’t get clapped then? And I bet half of them that have clapped have also at some point in the past been quick to moan how rubbish or ineffective they are because they’ve had to wait over four hours in A&E or had an appointment cancelled etc etc......
....just a thought.

I know too many people as ex colleagues or old friends who have nought good to say about the NHS and most things I let by "least said soonest mended" and all. I draw the line at NHS bashing because of my own and my families experiences and always challenge to nail down just what it is that irks the person and why they think the service is crap. When I and they have gone full circle as almost all arguments do I remark that they should try paying a little more tax and invest in a TV that is smaller than their living room wall.
The government primed the gullible to be at each others throats a long time ago and comments about teachers holidays being 57 weeks long and individual NHS pensions being larger than the GDP of a small country litter the comments pages of journals and the dross that is phone in radio shows.

 

[screenman]

Yes, the aim of the stay at home campaign is to keep the NHS running under capacity.

Not many people seem to get that point, most seem to want every bed totally full all the time and then wonder why there is a shortage, I would happily see hospitals run at a lot less than 100% all the time.

 

[pawl]

We have two frontline doctors on our terrace, 50 metres away, three others in our very rural small village, some care workers and other NHS staff. Everyone is out clapping, whistles, saxophone, saucepans, making lots of noise.

We have always talked all the time so that's nothing new but this brings an extra smile to us all for a few minutes. There is no harm. It's another way communities are supporting each other.

It's not necessary to be cynical about everything but then that's how many people are - and it shows. Too much negativity in this world.

Well said This thread gets more cynical as I work down it.As a exe nurse and specialist social worker for the elderly I am more than happy to spend two minutes clapplng

 

[Bonefish Blues]

We joined in, as we have since it started. TBH I have mixed feelings as our appreciation should go to all front line workers eg shop workers. We live in a small close and 3 of nearest neighbours are NHS workers. Probably 90% of the houses had at least one representative outside. NIce to see/hear the neighbours actually talking to each other............lets hope that spirit continues after this is all over.

I think that pretty much the whole country has done a good job since public policy caught up with the virus, as it were. My wife & daughter do, I don't - not because I'm unappreciative (in fact I was an emergency admission only on Sunday**) but because I feel uncomfortable about it being badged so narrowly.

**Am better thanks. Was astonished at the lack of load on the system - it was very quiet at the JR in Oxford.

 

[winjim]

Not many people seem to get that point, most seem to want every bed totally full all the time and then wonder why there is a shortage, I would happily see hospitals run at a lot less than 100% all the time.

As a laboratory scientist, it's actually quite nice now that workload has reduced, we're getting a chance to catch up with all the little jobs that get put to one side when we're so busy. Things like document control, the boring but important stuff. And as I can't go on my training placements, I'm getting a head start on my project for next year. Arguably this is the sort of level we should be working at all the time.

As for the clapping, it really is appreciated, and it cheers my heart to see the rainbows in the window of the houses round here. I'm genuinely moved by it. What I don't like is the way some people are treating it as some sort of jingoistic celebration and not connecting it to the consequences of political decisions that have been made over the last few months and years.

 

[winjim]

Am better thanks. Was astonished at the lack of load on the system - it was very quiet at the JR in Oxford.

The worry is the impact that scaling back clinics so dramatically will have on non-Covid patients. There's going to be a knock on effect.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

What I don't like is the way some people are treating it as some sort of jingoistic celebration and not connecting it to the consequences of political decisions that have been made over the last few months and years.

Bears repetition.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

The worry is the impact that scaling back clinics so dramatically will have on non-Covid patients. There's going to be a knock on effect.

Hell yes. Presumably we're storing up a load of trouble, as it were.

 

[Drago]

As someone who's been into an A&E department seven times so far this year(first four months).

Well, you will insist on hoovering the upstairs landing naked while leaving your box of sex toys at the foot of the stairs!

 

[Bonefish Blues]

Well, you will insist on goivering the upstairs landing naked while leaving your box of sex toys at the foot of the stairs!

It's very easy to fall on them I find - I mean I've been told.

 

[winjim]

Hell yes. Presumably we're storing up a load of trouble, as it were.

They're doing what they can with remote clinics and so on, but there are undoubtedly patients who are unable to access the care they need right now.

 

[DaveReading]

Everywhere on social media & the news. It's like the act of showing yourself clapping is now the most important part.

I'm sure you're right. For about 0.01% of those who participate.

 

[gavgav]

I get the clapping but letting off fireworks? It’s f*cking daylight and your scaring the f*ck out of my dog. Tw*t
Sorry for the rant but I’ve just spent the last 10minutes trying to calm my dog down who’s been cowering in the corner

Same near here, why?! Never understand fireworks in the daylight, either.....To be honest I don’t understand the seemingly endless desire to set them off these days.

 

[Brandane]

I would happily see hospitals run at a lot less than 100% all the time.

That would be great, on one condition...
That there wasn't any sick people out in society in desperate need of a hospital bed, but being denied one.
It is rumoured locally that cancer patients are being refused their ongoing chemotherapy treatment, just as an example.
Yes I know they don't want to expose cancer patients to the risk of CV19, so please resist from coming back at me with that one. You were meaning empty beds in normal (i.e. non CV19) times.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

But there were empty beds in the past, or spare capacity it would have been called in industry, but what happened? As I understand it they were told to cut costs & one of the ways was to shut wards & reduce spare capacity, it's hypocrisy on behalf of this Government if they had not reduced the funding the NHS would have been in a far better state to tackle this virus.

But why single out the NHS, there are so many other people putting themselves at risk who don't get dodgy Turkish sub-standard gowns flown in to protect them, what protection were the shop workers getting at the beginning?