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Rouge79

Well-Known Member
Location
London
So are any of the CC london contingent attending the #tfldiein this Friday evening?

I'm hoping to make it. Puffing my way up from NW9 along the A5 to get to it
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
I plan to be there, not that I really fancy lying around on cold road surfaces for the sake of a photo. It's a shame it's a Friday night. It would be a good occasion to repair to a bike friendly pub afterwards but if the pubs there have that Friday-after-work feel I might give that a miss.
 
I won't be there. I'm not sure that this will help, sadly.

I agree.

My local club is organising a ride to show solidarity, in the discussion leading up to deciding to do that we talked about standing/laying down and we decided a less antagonistic approach was needed. We need to show those that don't cycle we're not different, we're just mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters who use a bike to get to our destinations wherever that may be.

Also, 2 of their aims are these and I don't agree.

  1. A ban on vehicles whose drivers cannot see adjacent road-users; and,
  2. A full London-wide segregated network to be built urgently.

1) This has been done to death, going up the inside, but essentially I dont think blaming the driver all the time for not seeing/being unable to see someone on the inside is the way forward.
2) I don't think segregation is the answer, or even possible. Improve the junctions first, improve the roads first, improve driving standards and attitudes first. As more cyclists appear and we need more space that is when parts of the existing road network will become ours.
 

Spinney

Bimbleur extraordinaire
Location
Back up north
2) I don't think segregation is the answer, or even possible. Improve the junctions first, improve the roads first, improve driving standards and attitudes first. As more cyclists appear and we need more space that is when parts of the existing road network will become ours.

If this was done, much of the rest would not be as necessary. All it needs is better policing, and police and magistrates to throw the book at drivers on phones, and inconsiderate driving in general. People would eventually get the point.
 

Frood42

I know where my towel is
Why is this so early? Starting at 17:00?
Its about 12 miles away from where I work, so I would have to leave about 16:00, not going to happen...

Well, good luck to those who attend, I shall have to make a contribution to this other ways (already signed the 38degrees and LCC petitions).
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theclaud

Openly Marxist
Location
Swansea
Why is this so early? Starting at 17:00?
Its about 12 miles away from where I work, so I would have to leave about 16:00, not going to happen...

Well, good luck to those who attend, I shall have to make a contribution to this other ways (already signed the 38degrees and LCC petitions).
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Rush hour - got to time it for impact.

Schedule:
5pm Vigil
5.30-5.45 Die-In
5.45-6.30 Rally and Vigil.


https://m.facebook.com/events/568751353179586?_ft_&_rdr
 

steveindenmark

Legendary Member
As well as improving driving standards, there also needs to be a big improvement in cycling standards. All you need to do is spend 2 minutes looking on YouTube and you can see some dire cycling, by any stretch of the imagination.

The sooner we all admit we are all at fault, the sooner things can start moving forward.

I don't think sitting on a road does any good at all.

Steve
 

steveindenmark

Legendary Member
The Claud, the cut and paste specialist.

I got stuck behind something like this in Berlin a while back. I had no idea what they were protesting. But dozens of cyclists blocked the road, got the beers out and hung around for an hour. No attempt was made to interact with the drivers. No chat, no flyers, no nothing. What was the point? All it did was alienate them even more.

Steve
 
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