On a different note, I posted my Clyst list ride but left out the story of the grass snake crossing the lane on an uphill section, lovely it was, about 2ft long....I unclipped and stopped to take a photo, meaning to add the picture to my story, reached around to my saddlebag to get my camera out and then a blinkin huge tractor came down the lane, I waved at the driver to slow down as I dived into the hedge a bit to get out of the way.. but too late...I didn't then post the picture of a grass snake...