GrumpyGregry
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Has anyone wearing the Yellow Jersey ever failed to make the cut in the mountains and been eliminated?
TdF (stupid) question re elimination
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Keith Oates
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Not that I know of but maybe some of the more knowledgeable members may know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I watched the documentary, "Chasing Legends", twice in the past two days, there was reference to riders becoming broken men and unable to continue, and during that part, there was a rider in yellow, stopped on his bike, and what looked like officials removing the numbers from the back of his shirt, but in reality. I really do not know what was going on for that to be happening as I cannot see what the relevance of removing the numbers meant, even if the rider had called it a day.
Its seems a bit like the old days when a coward had his buttons cut off, if this is what happens in the tour, "That riders jacked, off with his number"
Its seems a bit like the old days when a coward had his buttons cut off, if this is what happens in the tour, "That riders jacked, off with his number"
Baggy
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According to the resident TDF expert, no, it's never happened, and if it were to happen, the commissaires would waive the elimination rule for the yellow jersey.
I suppose if it did happen it would have to be down to some catastrophic health/physical failure.
Apparently (though he wasn't in yellow) Paul Sherwen was once involved in a bad accident and finished the stage well outside of time. He wasn't eliminated due to the circumstances.
I suppose if it did happen it would have to be down to some catastrophic health/physical failure.
Apparently (though he wasn't in yellow) Paul Sherwen was once involved in a bad accident and finished the stage well outside of time. He wasn't eliminated due to the circumstances.
Noodley
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Yes.
threebikesmcginty
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Yep commas are very important, as follows:-
An English professor wrote the words, “Woman without her man is nothing” on the blackboard and directed his students to punctuate it correctly.
The men wrote: “Woman, without her man, is nothing.”
The women wrote: “Woman: Without her, man is nothing.”
In the 1959 Tour de France Brian Robinson after riding very strongly was lying in the first ten on General Classification. But trouble struck when he suffered an acute stomach upset, was dropped and nursed to the finish by his team-mate Shay Elliot.
Both finished way outside the time limit and were eliminated but their team manager invoked an ancient rule in the T.d.F hand book which stated that no rider in the first ten on G.C could be eliminated.
Robinson was therefore reinstated whereas poor Shay Elliot had to pack his suitcase.
A few days later Brian Robinson, by now feeling better, attacked on his own and built up a huge lead on the peloton of twenty minutes which he held to the finish giving him another stage victory after the one in 1958.
Ironically on the day of the Yorkshireman's win, Jean Robic, winner in 1947, was also in a bad way and finished outside the allotted time. Here the officials showed no mercy and he was eliminated.
Both finished way outside the time limit and were eliminated but their team manager invoked an ancient rule in the T.d.F hand book which stated that no rider in the first ten on G.C could be eliminated.
Robinson was therefore reinstated whereas poor Shay Elliot had to pack his suitcase.
A few days later Brian Robinson, by now feeling better, attacked on his own and built up a huge lead on the peloton of twenty minutes which he held to the finish giving him another stage victory after the one in 1958.
Ironically on the day of the Yorkshireman's win, Jean Robic, winner in 1947, was also in a bad way and finished outside the allotted time. Here the officials showed no mercy and he was eliminated.
oldroadman
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Technically it could happen, but the commissaires always have discretion about reinstatement. A leader losing so much time is likely to be ill anyway.
There was a case if a leader stopping in the mountains, simply exhausted, and pictures of him in tears climbing into a team car - after the commissaire in the camion balai (broom wagon) had removed his numbers, this being an old tradition to prove the rider had voluntarily abandoned. The numbers are part of the record of abandons for the day.
There was a case if a leader stopping in the mountains, simply exhausted, and pictures of him in tears climbing into a team car - after the commissaire in the camion balai (broom wagon) had removed his numbers, this being an old tradition to prove the rider had voluntarily abandoned. The numbers are part of the record of abandons for the day.
So therefore, going on what I posted earlier from the documentary "Chasing Legends", a yellow jersey rider was having his numbers removed, but as the documentary had excerpts from many tours, who was it, and when?
Baggy
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It could have been Pascal Simon in 1983, though it doesn't sound as if there was a film crew nearby, so maybe not.
"At the 1983 Tour, the Frenchman Pascal Simon had been wearing the yellow jersey for six days. He was suffering terribly from a hairline fracture of the shoulder blade, but Simon fought with everything he had, urged on by a French public proud of his panache. In pain, he would eventually quit the race and put his arm in a sling midway through a stage that ended at L’Alpe d’Huez, on an obscure section of deserted road, far from view."
"At the 1983 Tour, the Frenchman Pascal Simon had been wearing the yellow jersey for six days. He was suffering terribly from a hairline fracture of the shoulder blade, but Simon fought with everything he had, urged on by a French public proud of his panache. In pain, he would eventually quit the race and put his arm in a sling midway through a stage that ended at L’Alpe d’Huez, on an obscure section of deserted road, far from view."
