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Heltor Chasca
Out-riding the Black Dog
Some drooling going on. Pass the serviettes please. Is that the New Pugsley?
OP
OP
winjim
Smash the cistern
It's the Pugsley Special Ops, from a few years ago actually.
FishFright
More wheels than sense
Would you like to publish a list of a approved bicycles so you don't have to post the same stuff over and over about things you don't like ? It would be nice for all of us.
Andy in Germany
Guru
- Location
- Rottenburg am Neckar
From personal experience, you just keep hauling all kinds of stuff with it, and it becomes so normal and easy that you wonder why anyone else bothers with a car. We still occasionally get friends making well intentioned offers of the loan of a car "If you need something to carry the shopping"...
any bike thats fun to ride and give's the purchaser enjoyment shall not be bought under any circumstances. its all just marketing guff for the brain dead among us that can't make up our own minds on what to buy..........in the words of monopoly " go to your local skip, due not pass bicycle shop, go directly to skip"
Threevok
Growing old disgracefully
- Location
- South Wales
I love the tan sidewalls.
I stuck the Hamax on the back too for my youngest.
But clearance is fine!
Bodhbh
Guru
Regarding the practicality of the BFD....it does look a little niche unless you have live in a hut in Alaska and have to lug fire wood 10miles across bog and snow.
However, I believe they have tweaked the frame a little vs the regular BD and made it stiffer. Also, just because you can fit 5" tyres on it, doesn't mean you have to - I reckon it would work well with 29" wheels and 2.35" Big Apples for general use, and you can set it up for more aggressive terrain as required. The whole Surly shtick is swisss penknife bikes that can be setup for a range of uses.
However, I believe they have tweaked the frame a little vs the regular BD and made it stiffer. Also, just because you can fit 5" tyres on it, doesn't mean you have to - I reckon it would work well with 29" wheels and 2.35" Big Apples for general use, and you can set it up for more aggressive terrain as required. The whole Surly shtick is swisss penknife bikes that can be setup for a range of uses.
OP
OP
winjim
Smash the cistern
I was sort of meaning what if she outgrows the child seat and I don't have a cargo deck to sit her on!
I just find the child seat bounces and scrapes on the tyres a bit. It would be OK with a slightly larger frame.
Yes, it is a different frame to the BD, not just wider. I think I would probably go for a plus tyre, say 3", so I can off road it. I hadn't thought about 29" wheels though.
Heltor Chasca
Out-riding the Black Dog
I bought a different Hamax strut/adapter for my small frame when my youngest was in a child’s seat on my hybrid. The standard strut/adapter didn’t allow any suspension and bounced on the rack and hurt her back. Problem solved with the appropriate fitting.
Elybazza61
Guru
As a roadie I was a bit sceptical when it came to Surlys in general but being involved with selling them and actually riding them I think I now 'get' them;only downer is that some models are a bit pricey here*(Midnight Special especially) but models like the Disc Trucker make great bases for custom touring builds.
*UK distributor Ison are doing some UK only builds using Halo,Genetic etc parts to keep prices lower.
*UK distributor Ison are doing some UK only builds using Halo,Genetic etc parts to keep prices lower.
