Strava Purge

[Chislenko]

Probably be my last year as a paid subscriber. Probably the only advantage of paying was to see the segments and judge yourself against your previous best and your cycling mates.

They are to purge loads of segments and reading between the lines of what they are saying leave only "worthwhile" segments.

So for those of us not in the first flush of youth shorter segments where we still may be able to compete look set to go and it looks like we will be left with "proper segments" e.g. long climbs etc.

I know that a lot of people on here have a healthy dislike of Strava and their views have been expressed numerous times so for those people there is no need to reply to this post.

More interested in what other people who use the segments think or how they have interpreted the Strava Segment Message.

 

[Sea of vapours]

For anyone who's not seen it, the change notification in question is here:
https://stories.strava.com/articles...ed-segments-decluttering-and-leaderboard-faqs

They are to purge loads of segments and reading between the lines of what they are saying leave only "worthwhile" segments.

I'm not sure how you're reading that into it. It appears to be all about removing the vast number of duplicates and the many segments which have bad gps data, both of which are pretty irritating as they clutter things up.

The 'worthwhile' aspect would seem to be the 'Verified segments' concept, which seems a reasonable thing to do. Is that what you're talking about? As they've written it, that's an addition, not the only segment type that will be left !

... shorter segments where we still may be able to compete look set to go ...

I can't see that anywhere. Happy to be shown otherwise though (really happy since, depending on what 'short' means, I tend to see those as clutter).

 

[HLaB]

Auto flagging and decluttering are positives for me and I'm not in the flush of youth either.

 

[Dogtrousers]

It appears to be all about removing the vast number of duplicates and the many segments which have bad gps data,

Oh no. The means I'm likely to lose my KoM

(For info the daily telegraph ran an article complaining of cyclists going at 70kmh through London by looking at segments. I demonstrated technically how that came about and got a high speed KoM)

 

[Mo1959]

I wish they would get serious about doing something about the e-bike cheats as well. Seems to be a waste of time flagging the persistent offenders as nothing gets done. Not much point paying the subscription to see how you compare to others in your age group if some are on e-bikes.

 

[Chislenko]

For anyone who's not seen it, the change notification in question is here:
https://stories.strava.com/articles...ed-segments-decluttering-and-leaderboard-faqs

I'm not sure how you're reading that into it. It appears to be all about removing the vast number of duplicates and the many segments which have bad gps data, both of which are pretty irritating as they clutter things up.

The 'worthwhile' aspect would seem to be the 'Verified segments' concept, which seems a reasonable thing to do. Is that what you're talking about? As they've written it, that's an addition, not the only segment type that will be left !


I can't see that anywhere. Happy to be shown otherwise though (really happy since, depending on what 'short' means, I tend to see those as clutter).

Yes, maybe I read too much into it, time will tell I suppose.

 

[Jameshow]

What is Strava?!😂😂😂

 

[Chislenko]

I wish they would get serious about doing something about the e-bike cheats as well. Seems to be a waste of time flagging the persistent offenders as nothing gets done. Not much point paying the subscription to see how you compare to others in your age group if some are on e-bikes.

Agree Mo, there is one segment where I am second in the "old farts" category and the leader has obviously done it on a motorbike or something similar but no amount of flagging with Strava gets his / her time removed.

 

[Chislenko]

@Sea of vapours

Unfortunately the notification has dropped off my Strava page now but the wording went something along the lines of removing short segments within longer segments.

On some of those shorter sprint segments I can still show quite well as despite age I still have a handy sprint over a short distance but can't maintain it over the longer distances. One segment where I was something like 30th out of many thousands has already gone!

For me on the longer segments I am never going to fair well so it then becomes a bit pointless looking at them and paying for the privilege of looking at them.

I am paid up until next June so will see what affect it has by then.

 

[Venod]

It sounds like a positive move to me, what will be interesting is the removal of what they refer to as illegitimate efforts, I agree the ebikes motorbikes etc need to go, but the just this week I was out cycling doing about 18mph and a tractor and trailer passed going considerably quicker, behind was a cyclist drafting but he looked to be putting in a considerable effort to stay in the draft, he managed three KOMs following the tractor, I have no problems with this, he took advantage of the draft as many of us have took advantage of a tail wind, but will Strava consider it an illegitimate ride.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

So for those of us not in the first flush of youth shorter segments where we still may be able to compete

I find I can compete better at longer segments thanks to my endurance. A 30 second segment is hardly worth having. I’d say longer segments are better for us oldies.

 

[PaulSB]

Virtually every ride I go on segments I didn't know existed appear as if from nowhere. Many of these I consider pointless, they might be 200 metres or less. If these are part of the clean up I would see it as a positive step.

What's the value of a segment which takes 26 seconds to complete?

 

[Supersuperleeds]

I never look at segments unless I manage to fluke a top ten and it pops up once my ride has uploaded. I use Strava purely for the route planning and Veloviewer square grabbing.

 

[Ridgeway]

What's the value of a segment which takes 26 seconds to complete?

Could some of these just be short steep bumps ? We have quite a few here and all I’ve seen are segments. I quite like them as 26 seconds is about my limit these days 😂

 

[sevenfourate]

I never look at segments unless I manage to fluke a top ten and it pops up once my ride has uploaded. I use Strava purely for the route planning and Veloviewer square grabbing.

Similar.

I use it for routes, logging miles and recording amounts of activity.

I might look at segments flagged up after a ride. But neither look or pay any attention to before or during. If I beat any times etc or set some kind of record: it’s by ‘chance’ as such.