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Yep, road positioning 'help's with that but sometimes cars just pull out no matter what you're doing. I just hope the gits stayed around and took responsibility.
 

vickster

Legendary Member
Yep, road positioning 'help's with that but sometimes cars just pull out no matter what you're doing. I just hope the gits stayed around and took responsibility.
Unfortunately road positioning wouldn't have really saved me, although going through the same spot now I ride as much in the middle of the road as I can - I don't quite shut my eyes, but I do pedal as hard as I can through there and breathe very deeply!

I really need to find a better route on quieter streets but easier said that done! Vauxhall to the City is chaotic!
 
I really need to find a better route on quieter streets but easier said that done! Vauxhall to the City is chaotic!
I used to go through bethnal green shore ditch old st. Felt confident but it was a battle. New route about a mile further but it's much less stressful. Gorgeous wife says I come back less wound up.
 

vickster

Legendary Member
All a bit of a detour from Sutton to the City...in fact I'd have to go through the City to join your route :biggrin:
 

gurninman

Regular
You do have to practice shoulder checks and be more assertive on the road
I've only recently taken up cycling, but have ridden motorbikes for 30 years - cycling is way scarier in traffic, but I try to assert myself and haven't had a bad experience yet (famous last words !)
Last time I fell off a bike , it was a Raleigh Arena and I was 11.I *may* have fallen off motorbikes a bit, mind :smile:
 
Oh, I was just illustrating rather than map reading!

Though sure there's some on here that would just call it the scenic route.
 

Spinney

Bimbleur extraordinaire
Location
Back up north
If you've had a couple of clipless moments, you might consider putting flat pedals (i.e. really clipless pedals!) on for a bit, until you have more confidence in traffic and with shoulder checking. One less thing for you to think about at junctions. You can always swap the pedals back again later.

And there's nothing wrong with getting off at an awkward right hand junction, crossing the road as a pedestrian and getting back on the bike. If doing that at a junction means you can enjoy the ride, just do it. Confidence will come and you will then be able to ride all the route.
 
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thunderlips76

thunderlips76

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You do have to practice shoulder checks and be more assertive on the road
I've only recently taken up cycling, but have ridden motorbikes for 30 years - cycling is way scarier in traffic, but I try to assert myself and haven't had a bad experience yet (famous last words !)
Last time I fell off a bike , it was a Raleigh Arena and I was 11.I *may* have fallen off motorbikes a bit, mind :smile:

I did my CBT about 3 years ago, but that was on a scooter. Riding a motorcycle has always interested me but again i think I struggle with the confidence. saying that i'd probably feel safer on a motorbike
 
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thunderlips76

thunderlips76

climbs for cake
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BARNSLEY
If you've had a couple of clipless moments, you might consider putting flat pedals (i.e. really clipless pedals!) on for a bit, until you have more confidence in traffic and with shoulder checking. One less thing for you to think about at junctions. You can always swap the pedals back again later.

And there's nothing wrong with getting off at an awkward right hand junction, crossing the road as a pedestrian and getting back on the bike. If doing that at a junction means you can enjoy the ride, just do it. Confidence will come and you will then be able to ride all the route.

for me the clip in pedals are a trade off, I feel more in control on the bike and seem to save more energy on the flats as my pedalling is much smoother.....so I do like them......the trade off is.....I'm going to fall off
 

slowmotion

Quite dreadful
Location
lost somewhere
As TMN said, practicing looking over your right shoulder while indicating is a very worthwhile. Some people say that looking back with a low head position gives them more neck rotation and better rear vision. The other thing that is vital in traffic is to ride in a manner that is predictable to other traffic....eg. if there is a parked car, gentle edge out to pass it a long way ahead. Don't suddenly swerve out at the last second. There is quite a lot of good advice on Google about riding in traffic.

It's just a matter of practice. You will learn to enjoy it. We all felt nervous when we started. Have fun.
 

Sharky

Guru
Location
Kent
what about getting a rear view mirror to help with checking what's behind you?
+1 for trying a rear view mirror.

Bar end or helmet or thru the legs, all could be effective. I had a spell after a broken collar bone and a bit of whiplash. Couldn't look over my shoulder very much. The mirror helped until I got my flexibility back and with it confidence.

Don't use one anymore, but was very good when I needed it.

Keith
 

Spinney

Bimbleur extraordinaire
Location
Back up north
+1 for trying a rear view mirror.

Bar end or helmet or thru the legs, all could be effective. I had a spell after a broken collar bone and a bit of whiplash. Couldn't look over my shoulder very much. The mirror helped until I got my flexibility back and with it confidence.

Don't use one anymore, but was very good when I needed it.

Keith
another +1 for this - but the mirror does not replace the shoulder check!

I ride with a mirror - it is useful for seeing what is behind - either I can see there is someone behind, in which case I don't need to bother twisting to look over my shoulder until they've passed me, or there doesn't appear to be, in which case I look behind properly and then make my manoeuvre if that check shows it is clear.

I'm OK now, but when I first started cycling I would look behind and the sudden surprise of something being there if I thought the road was clear could make me wobble. The mirror prevented that.
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
Don't beat yourself up if you aren't confident in traffic, everyone starts that way normally. When I first returned to cycling it was a slow process building up my confidence and experience and gradually increasing the type of roads or type of turn that I would do, and when I would get off and walk. If you can get out on the roads without lots of traffic so much the better though as others say, it can end up speeding up.
 
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