Sportive "races"

[JonnyBlade]

Blimey! Haven't heard that phrase for a while

Navy boys use it a lot

 

[Fifelad]

Rug Rats (kids), Stinkies(WRAF), Scaley Brats (kids of servicemen),Beer chits(money),self-gratifying Chariot (bed) Pongos(a member of the Army) to give a few examples.................

 

[theclaud]

Just read about some tit on cyclechat. He's got a bee in his misogynistic (ask a woman to look it up for you, there's a dear) bonnet about the difference between racing and cycling quickly and is making himself look a prannock.

 

[MissTillyFlop]

Really? I've been mis-informed. I didn't think speed, quick, racing, placings etc were the name of the game.

Always learning.

I forgot spare rib ticklers don't like the phrase birds. I'm sorry, I come from a place up north and mix with the wrong sort.

I'm working on it.

Please do, I expect you to have moved to Bournemouth within the week.

 

[oldroadman]

Bit of confusion here - a sportive is not a race. Therefore you can hardly claim a "placing". Whether you want to go fast is up to you, just bear in mind it's not a race. Some of the riding I've seen in these events will get the attention of the authorities eventually, to Joe Public if someone has a number on anywhere, they are "racing". Expect legislation to come down if the trend of 500+ people thinking they are in a race a being daft continues. Plus of course, there is an effect on REAL RACING, which is very highly legislated, and could be pushed back years if certain sportive riders and organisers don't sort themselves out. I have heard from an "inside" contact that a lot of police forces are looking very hard at mass participation events, with a view to restrictions.

 

[VamP]

Bit of confusion here - a sportive is not a race. Therefore you can hardly claim a "placing". Whether you want to go fast is up to you, just bear in mind it's not a race. Some of the riding I've seen in these events will get the attention of the authorities eventually, to Joe Public if someone has a number on anywhere, they are "racing". Expect legislation to come down if the trend of 500+ people thinking they are in a race a being daft continues. Plus of course, there is an effect on REAL RACING, which is very highly legislated, and could be pushed back years if certain sportive riders and organisers don't sort themselves out. I have heard from an "inside" contact that a lot of police forces are looking very hard at mass participation events, with a view to restrictions.

Yeah, it's not a race, but a good percentage of participants think it is.

The format encourages this to be fair, with timing chips etc. I always view the organisers proclamation of ''it's not a race'' as a bit of a cop-out from responsibility should anything go wrong.

It's also interesting that these events attract fundamentally larger numbers than 'real' races. It really is not that hard to get a racing licence, so why are all the wannabe racers not doing real races?

 

[JonnyBlade]

Yeah, it's not a race, but a good percentage of participants think it is.

The format encourages this to be fair, with timing chips etc. I always view the organisers proclamation of ''it's not a race'' as a bit of a cop-out from responsibility should anything go wrong.

It's also interesting that these events attract fundamentally larger numbers than 'real' races. It really is not that hard to get a racing licence, so why are all the wannabe racers not doing real races?

I think you're correct in that they do promote a race atmosphere. The difference though in ability between sportivs and road races is apparent. I do wonder sometimes why some can't leave others be? If you want to 'race' it then why not. It's up to the rider as to whether you make it a 'race' or not. A sportiv is surely there for all to do whatever they please?If I pay my money it's up to me how I tackle the ride. I can either bimble along with the masses or 'race' against the clock.
For me, all that's important is for rides to continue to attend these events no matter how you plan to ride it. Makes a nice change from hours of solo miles IMO

 

[Bluebell72]

It was a standard phrase when I was in the RAF

So were the terms 'wog' and 'paki' when I was in the Prison Service, but they're unacceptable now, and would have people squirming in the way I was when I read your post.
Wholly unneccesary and inappropriate.

 

[YahudaMoon]

I think you're correct in that they do promote a race atmosphere. The difference though in ability between sportivs and road races is apparent. I do wonder sometimes why some can't leave others be? If you want to 'race' it then why not. It's up to the rider as to whether you make it a 'race' or not. A sportiv is surely there for all to do whatever they please?If I pay my money it's up to me how I tackle the ride. I can either bimble along with the masses or 'race' against the clock.
For me, all that's important is for rides to continue to attend these events no matter how you plan to ride it. Makes a nice change from hours of solo miles IMO

How can you race it if it's a sportive ? (you just think your racing

Same in audax. Its a audax. Not a race.


Difference between audax and sportive though, audax has competitiveness with club affiliation.

Sportives serve no purpose as they don't have any club affiliation only profit from private organisations unlike club TT and audax

 

[fimm]

It's also interesting that these events attract fundamentally larger numbers than 'real' races. It really is not that hard to get a racing licence, so why are all the wannabe racers not doing real races?

But it is. You have to be a member of a club and a member of British cycling and you have to know your category and if you're female I really don't know what you have to do.

A sportive you can turn up and do. No club membership, no categories, no complications.

 

[brokenflipflop]

So is it a race or isn't it ?

Half the people on here are chuffed at their "placing" in a sportive while the other half have been blissfully unaware they were in a race or testing themselves.

I need to know for next time so I can nip in front of the old geezer on the finish line and come in second to last instead of last.

 

[YahudaMoon]

But it is. You have to be a member of a club and a member of British cycling and you have to know your category and if you're female I really don't know what you have to do.

A sportive you can turn up and do. No club membership, no categories, no complications.

Avererage cost of a sportive £35

Club membership per annum (my club) £10

BC Membership is between per annum £10 and £35

Mmm ?

Entering club events £ peanuts in most cases

 

[YahudaMoon]

So is it a race or isn't it ?

Half the people on here are chuffed at their "placing" in a sportive while the other half have been blissfully unaware they were in a race or testing themselves.

I need to know for next time so I can nip in front of the old geezer on the finish line and come in second to last instead of last.

No its not a race.

Same as a audax aint. If you was to say you won the audax event on the day you would be the laughing stock of the cycling circuit.

Same as why when I hear people saying they won an sportive (makes me laugh) and one of the main reasons I will never enter one along with the cost

4 sportives in one month would cost me about £100 + or over £1200 + a year. Thats why I do audax club cycling TT

 

[brokenflipflop]

Well that was my point when first posted. I read about that bird who "competed" in a sportive and as I assumed they weren't in any way competitive I asked the question.

I've only done 2 of them but when I account for the porridge, cups of tea, bottle, food stops, drinks, potions, gels, bars, and then pie and peas at the end I didn't think it was that bad for £20. I can understand your point though if you just want to cycle and keep expense down right low.

I'm pretty new to this but I've found some old footy mates who I discovered do a bit of cycling so I'm giving up the sportive thing for the time being as I enjoy going out with them and on me todd.

 

[ianrauk]

Brokenflipflop, you are getting very tiresome with your misogyny. Do yourself a favour, give it a rest ok.