Spoke threads cutting/rolling

[bobg]

I was wondering when the rolling process used to produce spoke threads was introduced and if old time wheel builders used dies to cut the thread and overcame the inherent weakness by using thicher gauge spokes. I have an old hand threading tool which "cuts" albeit not wonderfully, but then maybe it was just meant to clean up existing threads?

I ask because The Cyclo and Hozan spoke threading machines seem only capable of producing small numbers of rolled spoke threads, and are unable to cope with Stainless steel, the other option seems either the Phil Woods machine ($3500 so probably not!) !!or buy them to size ready threaded.

 

[Night Train]

I know someone who has the Phil Woods spoke machine. I get my spokes from him.
He being Spandex.

 

[bobg]

I know someone who has the Phil Woods spoke machine. I get my spokes from him.
He being Spandex.

Coincidentally. I always thought Spandex was a kind and generous CCer... I hope he has plenty of room in his PM box for the volume of messages he's about to get

 

[Night Train]

Coincidentally. I always thought Spandex was a kind and generous CCer... I hope he has plenty of room in his PM box for the volume of messages he's about to get

Here's his website, I'd recommend him and happily do the drive over from Manchester to see him about wheels and bike stuff.
http://www.yourspokes.co.uk/

 

[bobg]

Thanks NT. I suppose I should have realized that he did it for a living, given that he stumped up for the Phil Woods machine. Prices are good too. As you say, well worth a trip over there.

 

[Night Train]

Yes, I do pick and choose which professionals I do business with and will happily travel for the benefit where necessary.
Plus he does nice coffee.

 

[spandex]

Thanks NT it is always a good day when you pop in :-) and the kettle is always on when you do. I don't get a lot of free time to come on CC any more :-( as bobg was right I am getting a lot of emails from CC'ers :-)
As for Threading spokes using cutting dies like the Hozan spoke threader.. takes some of the metal off the spokes which makes it weaker so using the Phil Woods threader is the best out there as it roles the thread onto the spoke which makes it intrinsically stronger which is why I use it.