Bonefish Blues
Banging donk
- Location
- 52 Festive Road
... which has a single concentration of population, by the looks of it. Let's be sensible.
Speedwatch group more alarmed by cyclists than speeding cars...
- Thread starter tom73
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So bikes doing less than the speed limit (which doesn't apply to them), are more dangerous than cars exceeding the speed limit that does apply to them?
Not forgetting " lots of bare flesh" we seamingly flash as we speed past
chriscross1966
Über Member
- Location
- Swindon
The speed limits do apply if the bike is being actively pedalled (not freewheeling down a hill) from memory the offense is something like "cycling furiously"So bikes doing less than the speed limit (which doesn't apply to them), are more dangerous than cars exceeding the speed limit that does apply to them?
*rubs chin* Jimmy Hill.
glasgowcyclist
Charming but somewhat feckless
- Location
- Scotland
The speed limits do apply if the bike is being actively pedalled (not freewheeling down a hill) from memory the offense is something like "cycling furiously"
I'm afraid that's wrong on all counts.
Speed limits do not apply to cycles (excepting Royal Parks) and there is no offence of cycling furiously. You may be thinking of the offence for which Charlie Alliston was convicted after he struck and killed a pedestrian, Kim Briggs, which was the offence of furious driving. Note that this offence is only applicable when the furious driving results in bodily injury to a third party.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/24-25/100/section/35
chriscross1966
Über Member
- Location
- Swindon
I was thinking of the 1847 Town Police Clauses Act,
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/10-11/89
which mentions nuicance caused by driving or riding furiously, and by precedent that has (a very long time ago) been applied to bicycles...
DaveReading
Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
- Location
- Reading, obvs
I can't see any mention of a distinction between pedalling or freewheeling there.
Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
- Location
- Inside my skull
Sorry that link points to a whole load of stuff including chimneys catching fire. Did not find this furious bit can you indicate which clause it is on that page?
LCpl Boiled Egg
Three word soundbite
Indeed. Chinny reck-on.
jarlrmai
Veteran
https://www.strava.com/segments/2418017
Looks like the road has steep grade so 30+mph is not out of the question going downhill.
Looks like the road has steep grade so 30+mph is not out of the question going downhill.
Aravis
Putrid Donut
- Location
- Gloucester
As the fastest times for the whole 1.74km of that segment average at over 40mph, evidently not!
The finishing line is about 75 metres beyond this bridge, opposite the entrance to the village stores:
LCpl Boiled Egg
Three word soundbite
I stand corrected. A shame because people don't use this enough anymore....
Bonefish Blues
Banging donk
- Location
- 52 Festive Road
A fuller picture than hitherto.
If one then looks at crashmap for the area, there have been a lot of serious accidents on that road (although only one with slight injury at that specific location, interestingly), so the sensitivity of the community can perhaps be understood.
NorthernDave
Never used Über Member
- Location
- The real Northern Powerhouse
Looks like you could get some air over that bridge too.
glasgowcyclist
Charming but somewhat feckless
- Location
- Scotland
I've been able to find only a single reference to the use of that act in relation to cycling, back in 1997.
A rider was stopped by police for doing 25mph in a 30 zone, arrested and reportedly faced a fine of £120 which he was refusing to pay. It's clear therefore that the
cyclist was not prosecuted for speeding.
Rather, the pretext for the police's action was, as you mentioned, Section 28 of the Town Police Clauses Act 1847 which refers to the furious driving or riding of any horse or carriage. However, there's no subsequent reporting that I can find of his conviction or acquittal so it may be that it never reached court.
