Speed Limits and Cyclists.

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lordjenks

Well-Known Member
in regards to the type of speed cameras that show your speed or if in a 30mph zone with flash 30mph when going over 32-33 or whtever it is, i hve been 'flashed' by one of those so they do work and register bikes
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
Downward said:
As regards speeding, the provisions of the Road Traffic Act 1984, which set out the speed limits for particular vehicles on particular classes of roads, apply only to motor vehicles and therefore specifically exclude pedal cyclists.
Is the right answer (excepting in some areas such as Royal Parks which have specific legislation governing them)
Downward said:
I do not know if a traffic speed camera could flash a cyclist.
The camera on the FNRttC downhill on the way into Brighton sometimes will get a fix on two cyclists travelling side by side, but doesn't usually react to anything smaller. Trigger point ~38mph, I think
Downward said:
However, I am aware of a comment made by a Sergeant in the Camera Enforcement Unit of West Midlands Police published in the Daily Mail April 1st 2000, where he says that ‘in theory’ any vehicle breaking the speed limit could activate a camera, but that he was not aware of any cyclists being caught speeding by camera. In any event there would clearly be a problem in identifying the speeding cyclist.
A suggestion was made on one of these events that a Data Protection Act request from the cyclist to the camera operator ought to be able to elicit the footage. Don't know if that's true though
 

buddha

Veteran
There's a speed indicator sign (Selsdon, sarf London) that always tells me to SLOW DOWN when I pass going down hill (no other traffic). Strange thing is that I can't be doing 30 as I'm usually on both brakes at that point as there's a bend ahead. What's even more strange is that I was 'told' to SLOW DOWN when going up hill yesterday.

Either I'm super human or the darned things need calibrating.
 

Hacienda71

Mancunian in self imposed exile in leafy Cheshire
I got told of for breaking the speed limit on a camp site in the seventies on my Raleigh Beaver at the age of eight. The speed limit was only 10 mph :biggrin: lol
 

purplepolly

New Member
Location
my house
buddha said:
There's a speed indicator sign (Selsdon, sarf London) that always tells me to SLOW DOWN when I pass going down hill (no other traffic). Strange thing is that I can't be doing 30 as I'm usually on both brakes at that point as there's a bend ahead. What's even more strange is that I was 'told' to SLOW DOWN when going up hill yesterday.

Either I'm super human or the darned things need calibrating.

I've heard of hand held spped guns registering exactly double the cyclists actual speed - something to do with the spokes? Possibly this is what happened.
 

purplepolly

New Member
Location
my house
Downward said:
How many cyclists can sustain a speed well above the speed limit anyway unless your a Pro ?

Me! I did today. It was a narrow shopping street with no shoppers around so put my head down and pushed it to a whole 20% above the speed limit for motorised vehicles.

It was actually my first time above the speed limit on a bike. I must ride in 10mph zones more often. :sad:
 

Kestevan

Last of the Summer Winos
Location
Holmfirth.
I go past a couple ofed cameras on my way into work. They're on a fairly steep downhill 50mph dual carriageway..

I've never managed to get them to go off, despite my best efforts :blush:

One morning though, I'd just pulled in at the round about at the bottom of the hill when a cop car pulled up next to me and plod leaned out and said "Do you realise you were doing 54 mph down there? - Bloody barmy". He was smiling tho...
 

Garz

Squat Member
Location
Down
I thought you could get points/fine as you are technically speeding. Anyway my point would be then, as we now have plods on cycles in our communities, how long will it be till one of them gets caught up in this grey area?
 
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gaz

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
Garz said:
I thought you could get points/fine as you are technically speeding. Anyway my point would be then, as we now have plods on cycles in our communities, how long will it be till one of them gets caught up in this grey area?

You can't get points because you don't have a license for them to go on.

You also don't have to have a calibrated speedometer (who has a calibrated one at that anyway) so you can always plea that your computer is only to track your miles and time rather than for speed wise as it is probably wrong.

The police on bikes in london are on front suspension bikes with nobly tires and panniers, they aren't going to be catching me or breaking any 30mph speed limits without being out of breath.
 

Garz

Squat Member
Location
Down
gaz said:
You can't get points because you don't have a license for them to go on.

You also don't have to have a calibrated speedometer (who has a calibrated one at that anyway) so you can always plea that your computer is only to track your miles and time rather than for speed wise as it is probably wrong.

The police on bikes in london are on front suspension bikes with nobly tires and panniers, they aren't going to be catching me or breaking any 30mph speed limits without being out of breath.

I have a valid UK driving licence, it wouldn't surprise me if they wanted to put them on this.

What speedometer, I never mentioned that? (referring to speedtrap or static gatso type device)

I live near manchester and there are some hills, easy enough to break speed limits if you exerted yourself. Knobbly or mtb bikes they are still capable and we all dont live in the capital. :blush:
 
buddha said:
There's a speed indicator sign (Selsdon, sarf London) that always tells me to SLOW DOWN when I pass going down hill (no other traffic). Strange thing is that I can't be doing 30 as I'm usually on both brakes at that point as there's a bend ahead. What's even more strange is that I was 'told' to SLOW DOWN when going up hill yesterday.

Either I'm super human or the darned things need calibrating.
There's speed indicator signs cropped up all over Fife (with a digital speed read out), they are usually just about the crest of a hill just entering a village (either slightly before or after the crest). These one seem very accurate the most I've registered though is 22mph :sad:; could they not move them to the bottom of the hill :blush:
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Garz said:
I have a valid UK driving licence, it wouldn't surprise me if they wanted to put them on this.

I live near manchester and there are some hills, easy enough to break speed limits if you exerted yourself. Knobbly or mtb bikes they are still capable and we all dont live in the capital. :blush:

If you went whizzing around on a minimoto or electric scooter you could get points put on it, it would still be quite rare. You can't get points on you licence for what you describe though, you can get it for what I've said and others as it's on the list of endorsable offences. I think the only way to do it on a bicycle/ped is to get it via endorsements for special roads.
 
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