So much for AI

[albion]

Multiple news sources are reporting that the AI bus behaved properly, and the human driver was a slavering murderous loon, hell bent on wreaking carnage. Or something like that.

That is a plus really, in that Tesla fatality the Tesla missed out a sideview of the lorry in its recognition system.

 

[Prometheus]

OK you are white Van man stress out with the days work.
Now you have just hit a driverless vehicle what do you do?
You have nobody to exchange details with, what’s the Law?

PS I am writing a new Book “How to hit a driverless Bus
and not get lynched”

 

[jefmcg]

OK you are white Van man stress out with the days work.
Now you have just hit a driverless vehicle what do you do?
You have nobody to exchange details with, what’s the Law?

What if you hit a driverless light pole?

 

[mustang1]

Actually, the shuttle stopped appropriately but the (human driven) lorry continued and hit it from the side. This is not really news, apart from the fact that another dumb human has caused an accident.

I haven't read the article but I suppose The Guardian didn't make that clear?

 

[mustang1]

So much for people's ability to read stories.

Dumb reader misunderstands a story which states the lorry driver was at fault and was given a ticket.

It's bad enough with the number of people we have who can't understand a story, do we need more?

I guess the Guardian got it right after all.

 

[Julia9054]

My husband is called Al. These headlines confuse me!

 

[nickyboy]

My husband is called Al. These headlines confuse me!

Thread title made me think of Paul Simon and Chevy Chase

 

[smutchin]

 

[kevin_cambs_uk]

I can’t see how worse autonomous vehicles are compared to the morons on the road at the moment!

 

[NorthernDave]

Autonomous vehicle spots hazardous situation, so obeys it's programming and stops.
Human doesn't look where he is going and collides with stopped vehicle.

Which in itself isn't much of a story, despite the giddy attempts of the media to turn it into one..

However it does open the door to the wider issue of autonomous vehicles - such as once the general public figure out that AV's are programmed to stop if they detect danger, how long before there is chaos on the roads as human drivers simply pull out in front of them at junctions, safe in the knowledge that the AV will stop? Or peds step off kerbs in front of them, knowing that they'll stop? How long before we have gridlock beyond anything we see today?

I inadvertently tripped the Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) on a taxi the other day - I quite correctly stepped onto a zebra crossing and either the taxi driver wasn't paying attention or didn't feel obliged to stop, but the car did and hit the brakes, hard. Good for me, no doubt but it shows how things are changing.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

There is grid lock already. What autonomuous may be able to do is reclaim the streets for those not in metal boxes. Wonder how good these vehicles are in predicting cyclist movements such as pullimg out past an obstruction etc.

 

[NorthernDave]

There is grid lock already. What autonomuous may be able to do is reclaim the streets for those not in metal boxes. Wonder how good these vehicles are in predicting cyclist movements such as pullimg out past an obstruction etc.

I'd agree that once we reach a tipping point for AV's then we should see things improve. I'm not so sure with the short term though when we have limited numbers vehicles with limited AV capabilities mixing with ordinary vehicles though.

As for cyclist detection, it's out there and getting better and will shortly form part of the NCAP test for new vehicles, but systems differ in their capabilities at the moment and while in theory it should be safer than a human driver, I wouldn't risk my life on it.

https://www.thatcham.org/car-safety/safety-testing/

This is an old video (2014) but gives an idea what is going on and the timelines:

 

[Electric_Andy]

Perhaps the lorry driver thought "I can't see properly, but I'll keep reversing and if someone's in the way, they'll beep me".

 

[classic33]

Perhaps the lorry driver thought "I can't see properly, but I'll keep reversing and if someone's in the way, they'll beep me".

Walls don't "beep"!

 

[albion]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2024/07/30/boxing-judging-olympics-paris-2024-ai

Whilst it might still be fallible, in one fell swoop, it would clean up possibly the most corrupt sport in existance.