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400bhp

Guru
Hmm-lost this segment. The guy has obviously loaded up all his historic times as it dates back to 2009. Nothing wrong with that but the speed looks a little fishy. I don't doubt for a minute that it can be achieved, but to do it without knowing there was a segment is unlikely. I appreciate the guy is clearly very very capable (google him if you want to see), but I can't view his ride where he took the KoM. What to do?
 

lejogger

Guru
Location
Wirral
Hmm-lost this segment. The guy has obviously loaded up all his historic times as it dates back to 2009. Nothing wrong with that but the speed looks a little fishy. I don't doubt for a minute that it can be achieved, but to do it without knowing there was a segment is unlikely. I appreciate the guy is clearly very very capable (google him if you want to see), but I can't view his ride where he took the KoM. What to do?

Look at the estimated power he's pushing out... I'd say that, combined with the fact that it's only 3 seconds faster than your time makes it look very genuine. From google it looks like he's a specialist time trialler (sub 21 minute 10s). Definitely not one to report... and in favourable conditions I'm sure you could find that 3 seconds couldn't you? Wait around for a tail wind day! (I appreciate there aren't many of those though!)

EDIT: the sub 21min 10tt was a two up, but he's got an individual 2 hour 50tt ride, so if he's capable of pushing out a 25mph average for 2 hours, I'm sure a 31mph average over less than 1 minute is very possible.
 

400bhp

Guru
Yeah, you can, for a split second (by clicking on the date) see his ride time and average speed-looks plausible.

Now the interesting thing, when putting the ride into Strava segment detailer, the KoM is Jody Cundy :bow:. His ride must have been flagged-but why would anyone flag his ride.:sad:
 

400bhp

Guru
I guess it does show another flaw with strava. Someone posts a fast time and they have their account locked down-very difficult to have a look to see if it's real. Likely to lead to more people flagging genuine rides.
 

lejogger

Guru
Location
Wirral
Yeah, you can, for a split second (by clicking on the date) see his ride time and average speed-looks plausible.

Now the interesting thing, when putting the ride into Strava segment detailer, the KoM is Jody Cundy :bow:. His ride must have been flagged-but why would anyone flag his ride.:sad:
I daresay he's got enough KOMs that he doesn't need to worry about the odd one being reported. I doubt he's got the time or inclination to email Strava to ask for it to be reinstated either! He probably has other proper races to worry about!!
 

Peter Armstrong

Über Member
Got my First KOM the other day, The previous guy had held the top stop for months, I beat it by quite a big chunk only to lose KOM a few days later.
SO unfair, but as soon as you set faster times, it attracts the "Big Fish". He could have left me with KOM for a little longer :sad:
 

400bhp

Guru
Got my First KOM the other day, The previous guy had held the top stop for months, I beat it by quite a big chunk only to lose KOM a few days later.
SO unfair, but as soon as you set faster times, it attracts the "Big Fish". He could have left me with KOM for a little longer :sad:

There's something in this. I've took a few new ones recently (where the kom had been there for some time) and some have been taken back (not by the previous KoM holder) in a pretty short space of time. I think a lot is weather dependant-mainly wind direction, so people will have a go when the wind is blowing the right way.
 

Peter Armstrong

Über Member
There's something in this. I've took a few new ones recently (where the kom had been there for some time) and some have been taken back (not by the previous KoM holder) in a pretty short space of time. I think a lot is weather dependant-mainly wind direction, so people will have a go when the wind is blowing the right way.

well luckly I hold on to another 2 KOM, shhhhhhhhhhhh, I supose I better go get PR's on them to keep them.
 
400BHP, that KOM you lost is probably genuine, taking into account it's with a tailwind and that the guy who took it is a very fast timetrialist getting way under the hour for 25 miles and winning 12 hour time trials I believe.

400BHP, you've not had that segment for a while unless you're called Kev Wild?
 

lejogger

Guru
Location
Wirral
Here's a question then... Does anyone here hold a KOM that when they rode it they thought "I've ridden my b*llocks off there, that is NEVER going to be beaten"!!!
And a) Has it?
Or b) is it still standing?
And then c) are you going to share it?!!
 

Hacienda71

Mancunian in self imposed exile in leafy Cheshire
Here's a question then... Does anyone here hold a KOM that when they rode it they thought "I've ridden my b*llocks off there, that is NEVER going to be beaten"!!!
And a) Has it?
Or b) is it still standing?
And then c) are you going to share it?!!

Yep

I thought I was not going to get caught on this. At the time I was nine seconds ahead of my nearest rival over the mile. I have clawed back a couple of seconds on a more recent attempt, but think I need a strong East wind and no traffic to take the KOM again. I am not desperate to do it as you are hitting speeds over 40mph on what is a less than perfect road surface with a cross roads at the bottom on a fairly busy road.
 

400bhp

Guru
1. 400BHP, that KOM you lost is probably genuine, taking into account it's with a tailwind and that the guy who took it is a very fast timetrialist getting way under the hour for 25 miles and winning 12 hour time trials I believe.

2. 400BHP, you've not had that segment for a while unless you're called Kev Wild?

1. Agreed

2. I never said I'd had it for a while-joint top with Kev Wild.
 

400bhp

Guru
Here's a question then... Does anyone here hold a KOM that when they rode it they thought "I've ridden my b*llocks off there, that is NEVER going to be beaten"!!!
And a) Has it?
Or b) is it still standing?
And then c) are you going to share it?!!

I will never have a segment that I think it will NEVER be beaten. I'm not that fast.

There's a few I've ridden my bollox off-one in particular springs to mind and no, I'm not sharing it. :laugh:
 

zizou

Veteran
Got my Rapha Rising roundel in the mail today, very nice!

Here's a question then... Does anyone here hold a KOM that when they rode it they thought "I've ridden my b*llocks off there, that is NEVER going to be beaten"!!!
And a) Has it?
Or b) is it still standing?
And then c) are you going to share it?!!

I know there is always someone (or indeed many people!) faster than me so each KOM i hold feels temporary :biggrin:

The most annoying thing is having a good KOM then a few people in a race, chaingang or group ride setting times that demolishes all the other top times on the leaderboard leaving little chance of ever getting back on top.
 
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