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User6179

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One KOM, a second place and a fourth. Wind was a factor!

Mental out there today. Averaged 30mph over one westerly 4.5 mile flat seg. On my cx bike! :wacko:

Seen your comment in another thread that you were oot on the bike the day n i thought I wonder what segment you were after^_^

Hardcore!!

As my m8 says to me your stravaed oot yer nut!!:thumbsup:
 

400bhp

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With a bit of digging, i've found this page which loads much faster. 909 was right
http://www.perullo.com/strabbaranks/london_summary-v2.html

Manchester long list
http://www.perullo.com/strabbaranks/manchester_summary-v2.html

I've emailed the "developer" and provided a link to this thread.
 
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perullo

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Hi guys - Strabbaranks guy (Jerry) here. I'm glad you guys are having some fun with the data and appreciate the feedback - it will be useful. Some extra colour on the whole project:
- yes it's unfunded/fun work - started as a feature I recommended to Strava, and I made the 'proof of concept' when I realized I could put something together myself. They get lots of recommendations on the support board and I thought having something concrete would be more compelling than arguing with everyone else over what would be coolest. I designed the concept and how I could get/parse the data to make regional leaderboards, and then hit up freelancer.com to find someone to do the heavy lifting and setup the code framework since I would not have the time. I found a great University student in Greece (non-cyclist :sad: ) and he was able to do the initial framing at a cost I was willing to pick up. I had him put it together in a language with which I was familiar (PERL) so I could move it forward once he was done. I put the quick google sites frontend on it so I could publish some quick details, but as you may have noted I have to run the code and generate the files elsewhere for now. I still hope Strava picks it up one day since they could do so much more with it as an integrated component.

- I completely agree that the page size issue is a big one - the most pressing issue, I would say. I've been doing some research to figure out how I am going to add pagination so you can see something like 25 results per page, jump to different pages, and, ideally, search out your name. It was all fun and games until I added London, at which point the big file became untenable. I did make a change a couple of days ago to make a top-50 file in addition to the giant one; that should tide some people over.
- I hear the recommendation to be able to view specific groups/categories so you don't have to hunt out your mates among the thousands of results. I can't promise that quite yet but once it is in mind I can at least assure you it will bug me until I think of something useful.

Since this is totally unfunded and lightweight, there are a couple of thresholds I've avoided crossing that would significantly increase complexity with the promise of enabling some additional functionality. They pretty much fall into:
a) no database
- I've managed to do all of this with no database. This makes it super lightweight, easy to test from my home PC if I want, and portable to any host/server if appropriate one day. The only 'state' that is retained are results per day of week so I can do the "change v. last week" calculations. I'm willing to do a little more with flat files that should enable some more stuff, but avoiding a proper database will limit some abilities. For example, I think I will be able to add a "here is my rider ID, show me all the regions where I have a placing and what that placing is." What I can't do easily without the db is things like graphing changes with granular time details (changes each day), showing leaderboard history for various segments, etc. Veloviewer is awesome at this kind of thing.
b) no user context
- Since there is no authentication required and I don't pass authentication to/from Strava, I can't do contextual things like know your weight, age, clubs, mates etc. If I had that I could implement filters a la Strava. You'll note few API sites if any, however, are doing that right now, as the API calls involved in that are some of the newer ones and require a little back and forth with Strava to work. So that's a big lift, and is not on the radar straight away.
Since this is just for fun, I can only work on it on nights and weekends when life permits. I enjoy it, but I'm always wary of jumping into a 'point of no return' enhancement where the whole thing is cocked up because I did 2 hours of work and it needs 6 to come together. Instead I research and hover a bit, testing a few ideas out in little 'beta' snippets until I'm sure of how to implement something and have a few hours on a weekend to really get it done.
...and that brings us back to pagination... which is a bit complicated without a database, but certainly doable. I'll sort something out.
..oh and I need to add Kyoto!
So for now, my sagest advice is that you
a) only load the top-50 page to make it quick and
b) ride your way into the top 50!
 

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
Thanks for taking the time to post here.

Can you explain in full how the points work? I've got a nagging feeling the maths don't work so well given what gaz posted.
So what's this new scoring all about?
The top 10% are awarded points. This means if 1018 people rode a segment, 101 are getting some points. If 52 rode it, 5 are getting points. How many points? Riders/n. The number of total riders divided by your ranking. So the KOM gets all the points available - 1018 or 52 in our examples. Second place gets 1018/2 or 52/2, so it's a sizable dropoff. Third place gets 1/3 and so on, until the last scored rider in each example gets 1018/101 or 52/5 points... in both case about 10. Only whole numbers are used for now - no decimals. The new detailed report will show you where your points have come from including the total points available on a segment, your ranking, and the resulting number of points allocated to you.
http://www.strabbaranks.com/v2
 
Managed to get out for an hour in the snow today. :cold: Snow boarding gloves were essential.

Anyway, 2 KOM's, a 2nd and two 4ths. Was happy with one KOM which was a climb with a VAM of 1673.
Climbing better than anytime last year.

Ps, freezing cold air stings the sh*t out of your lungs when pushing hard.
 
When its really cold i try and knock the effort level back a bit as it can lead to exercise enduced asthma developing.
and no one wants that!!! :thumbsup:
 

Spartak

Powered by M&M's
Location
Bristolian
Did a 150km Audax yesterday !
But on the way managed a 4th place on a segment alongside the Avon Ringroad :-)


Anybody having issues with Veloviewer still won't update for me ???
 

Supersuperleeds

Legendary Member
Location
Leicester
Got two new segments today, both covering the same bit of road, one I was 218th out of 218 and the other 216th out of 220. I did have to stop because the snow was too deep even for the winter tyres for a fair bit of the stretch and also to let cars by as I didn't fancy them skidding into me. Would love to know how four other people did it slower, most of it was downhill.
 
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