Hip Priest
Veteran
It sounds like a pointless quest.
Road signs should be clear and formal.
Road signs should be clear and formal.
Signs asking cyclists to dismount should be 'more polite'
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Little yellow Brompton
A dark destroyer of biscuits!
- Location
- Bridgend
Me , Me Me! OH Meeee!
Blackweir bridge in Cardiff. It's narrow, poorly fitting planks and slippery.
CamPhil
Active Member
- Location
- Nr Cambridge
Exactly.
So why use a sign which has no legal authority, and misleads people as to the actual legal status of the route?
The ONLY sign which legally requires cyclists to dismount is the bicycle outline in black on a circular white background with a red border.
And even then it needs to be backed up by a byelaw or traffic regulation order for it to be enforceable.
The statement from Cambridge Cycling Campaign was quite clear in that it was calling for these misleading blue signs to be either removed or replaced with signs asking cyclists to be polite to pedestrians.
It was a real feat of creative incompetence for the Cambridge News to interpret it otherwise.
Glover Fan
Well-Known Member
- Location
- Almondsbury, Nr Bristol
Maybe if more people dismounted each other there would be less babies.
/coat.
I can hear (non sexual) groans from the other side of the room.
Zoiders
New Member
- Location
- Ice Station Zebra
Idiots weaving through pedestrian areas are my pet hate and it's not kids on BMX's that are the worst offenders it's people with all the gear who obviously cycle enough to know better.
The sign should say "Cyclists Dismount"
The next should say "That Means You you knobber"
The sign should say "Cyclists Dismount"
The next should say "That Means You you knobber"
G-Zero
Guru
- Location
- Kirkcudbright, SW Scotland
So what is the legality of a red rectangular sign, with writing stating "NO CYCLING, BY ORDER", without the mandatory "NO CYCLING" signs you describe ?
I only ask as there are a couple of these signs in my area, protecting public footpaths and one of them has a very busy dual carriageway as the alternative route, which IMO just serves to invite cyclists to ignore the signs.
I must admit I usually don't let much get to me, but these signs do.
I live in town, don't like playing in traffic, and can be on almost empty roads in 20-25 minutes. There's a busy dual carriageway on one of my main exit routes from town, with a cycle path running alongside it. I almost always take the path, but its split up by lots of access routes to the dual carriageway with lots of give way signs, and a liberal sprinkling of those signs- despite there rarely being a pedestrian within a mile.
The last time I was escaping from the town I was idly speculating about organising a conference on cycling transport issues for local authority staff, and everyone who arrived by car would be asked to get out and stand by their car for 5 minutes before being allowed to get into the car park. They would then be asked to explain the need for these signs and spend time in workshops trying to work out ways of getting rid of them.
By the time I had that sorted I was out on the open road and the freedom was working its usual magic!
I live in town, don't like playing in traffic, and can be on almost empty roads in 20-25 minutes. There's a busy dual carriageway on one of my main exit routes from town, with a cycle path running alongside it. I almost always take the path, but its split up by lots of access routes to the dual carriageway with lots of give way signs, and a liberal sprinkling of those signs- despite there rarely being a pedestrian within a mile.
The last time I was escaping from the town I was idly speculating about organising a conference on cycling transport issues for local authority staff, and everyone who arrived by car would be asked to get out and stand by their car for 5 minutes before being allowed to get into the car park. They would then be asked to explain the need for these signs and spend time in workshops trying to work out ways of getting rid of them.
By the time I had that sorted I was out on the open road and the freedom was working its usual magic!
cycleruk
Active Member
- Location
- Peterborough
maybe a sign saying "please slow down", its polite and straight to the point 
Davidc
Guru
- Location
- Somerset UK
One went up on a cycle contraflow near me, where it crosses a side road.
I ignored it for a week or two, then it was nicely wrapped round the post - not by me.
It has been replaced since. I still haven't ever taken any notice of it. There are give way markings either side of the road, which I always obey, having no wish to argue with a another vehicle. What's the point of it?
There are a few other ones around, and the only one I obey is on a bit of path which is so narrow I have to push the bike from behind by the saddle. Again, what's the point?
What a waste of money!
There is a polite one at the top of Porlock Hill which says "Cyclists are advised to dismount". I chose not to take the advice 41 years ago, and didn't again last summer. I presume that's there as a bit of ar5e covering in case someone goes too fast and can't stop at the bottom. Surely though it's up to any rider to judge their speed and competence on a downhill for themselves with or without a sign? What's the point?
There used to be a similar sign on Pebblecombe Hill in Surrey. The last time I ignored that was in 1989. I would have ignored it more recently but haven't ridden that way since. Ignored it the hundred or more times I went down it before then though. What's the point of that one?
More money wasted on daft and unnecessary signs. Those last two are more than adequately dealt with by the existing steep hill signs.
Too many petty, over-officious bureaucrats ordering road signs, but I bet their jobs aren't the ones Cameron's cuts will remove!
I ignored it for a week or two, then it was nicely wrapped round the post - not by me.
It has been replaced since. I still haven't ever taken any notice of it. There are give way markings either side of the road, which I always obey, having no wish to argue with a another vehicle. What's the point of it?
There are a few other ones around, and the only one I obey is on a bit of path which is so narrow I have to push the bike from behind by the saddle. Again, what's the point?
What a waste of money!
There is a polite one at the top of Porlock Hill which says "Cyclists are advised to dismount". I chose not to take the advice 41 years ago, and didn't again last summer. I presume that's there as a bit of ar5e covering in case someone goes too fast and can't stop at the bottom. Surely though it's up to any rider to judge their speed and competence on a downhill for themselves with or without a sign? What's the point?
There used to be a similar sign on Pebblecombe Hill in Surrey. The last time I ignored that was in 1989. I would have ignored it more recently but haven't ridden that way since. Ignored it the hundred or more times I went down it before then though. What's the point of that one?
More money wasted on daft and unnecessary signs. Those last two are more than adequately dealt with by the existing steep hill signs.
Too many petty, over-officious bureaucrats ordering road signs, but I bet their jobs aren't the ones Cameron's cuts will remove!
mcshroom
Bionic Subsonic
- Location
- Egremont, Cumbria
I know of quite a few 'mandatory' Cyclist Dismount signs on the site where I work. Unfortunately our H&S dept. in their infinite isdom have decided cyclists cannot cycle over level crossings (trains move at 10mph max). It's a disciplinary offence to be caught riding between the sign and the end of the yellow box.
I have asked when the drivers are going to be told they have to get out and push.
I have asked when the drivers are going to be told they have to get out and push.
CamPhil
Active Member
- Location
- Nr Cambridge
They'd have trouble with me then - my bicycle is my wheelchair.
If they are going to require me to go across on crutches instead they'd need to supply someone to push the bike
If they are going to require me to go across on crutches instead they'd need to supply someone to push the bike
The thing that was missed is their inappropriate use.
Most common is where the Council has failed in its provision to link cycle facilities.
We have them in Gosport where there is a good quality off road cycle track, yet when it crosses a road there are " Cyclists Dismount" signs - WHY?
... and as no-one else has done so yet, the famous image from Warrington Cycle campaign:
Most common is where the Council has failed in its provision to link cycle facilities.
We have them in Gosport where there is a good quality off road cycle track, yet when it crosses a road there are " Cyclists Dismount" signs - WHY?
... and as no-one else has done so yet, the famous image from Warrington Cycle campaign:
