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Mo1959

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but the way these 501's seem to be (seem smooth on the road than the RS10/11's ) perhaps just get a pair of them every year at £60-70, who knows the rims might last longer than 7,000 miles, lets put it this way my front gatorskin is on its third rim and still keeps going.
My Forme's wheels have done over 10,500 miles but they are finally starting to sound a bit rough. I see Amazon have the 501,s for £59.99. I am a bit tempted.
 
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@Mo1959 Its not my hubs that give out but the rims, they start to fracture come the end of the end of the winter in both cases, I can't fault the 501's yet they do have a slightly higher spoke count, at 20/24 compare with 16/20, there are rim profiles 24mm and 30mm, the 30mm are quite a bit heavier, the 24mm are about the same weight as the RS10/11's I weighed the front at 845 and rear at 1075, just the wheel no skewer or cassette or tyre.
 

Mo1959

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@Mo1959 Its not my hubs that give out but the rims, they start to fracture come the end of the end of the winter in both cases, I can't fault the 501's yet they do have a slightly higher spoke count, at 20/24 compare with 16/20, there are rim profiles 24mm and 30mm, the 30mm are quite a bit heavier, the 24mm are about the same weight as the RS10/11's I weighed the front at 845 and rear at 1075, just the wheel no skewer or cassette or tyre.
Will a 10 speed cassette fit straight on or does it need a spacer?
 
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@Mo1959 its straight on, there is a small spacer that comes with 105 and Ultegra cassette, not 100% about Tiagra, @Nomadski should be able to say having just fitted one, according to the techdocs there isn't must be to do with how the lower three gears are mounted on a spider I guess, so Tiagra will go one without any spacer, 105 ect with the spacer provided with the cassette,
 
Almost every bike I see seems cleaner than mine.
its not how clean the bike is that counts.... you should see the state my husband deliberately keeps the frame work in.... also what the oil is counts. 3 of our bikes have brown chains as well which makes it look dirtier than it actually is. the rest have silver chains which really show how clean or dirt life is... they are much easier to look dirty... the brown chain just looks dirty all the time!
 

Mo1959

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@SatNavSaysStraightOn but wouldn't you think if a person has a clean frame the rest will be clean.
I think the fact that the frame is much easier to clean, rather than an oily, grimy drivetrain. I usually end up filthy myself after it. I am starting to understand people that only cycle in nice weather. It was getting seriously annoying coming back with a filthy bike after nearly every ride for a while there.
 
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@Mo1959 whats difficult about mickling a chain, takes two mins to clean the crud off, I understand what you mean about the filth its the same here being very much arable farming lots of tractors all times of the year, not to mention quarries/mines the coal dust mix that with water, and your bike is black in seconds, even when they run a road sweeper all day long, and yes I have got back and put the bike away thinking I will do it before I go out, then forget, only to hear the grinding paste 5 miles in to a ride, it still doesn't take away from the fact the chain lasted nearly 4,000 miles and I suspect I would get much more out of it, and that the cassette is good I would say for at least another 4,000 miles, yet many don't get 1,000 miles out of a chain.
 
wrong oil... since I changed to wax, life has been so much cleaner. mud grit and grim does not stick... mind you I have had to microwave the bottle of wax in the last few days to get it to be a little less solid :whistle:
 
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