Should I stick with stock tyres?

[Berties]

I doubt you can feel it. The resistance is measured in grams and from best to worse is a couple of grams. If you turn your head sideways at 10kph there is more of a change in resistance. Various tyres give different acoustic feedback and most people associated a higher pitched tone as less resistance, although it isn't necessarily so.

its still work in progress ,I've been recommended to try 25,I've got 23 on my aero,and 28 on my winter,I've stuck to 23 for so long,thanks for your input

 

[Yellow Saddle]

its still work in progress ,I've been recommended to try 25,I've got 23 on my aero,and 28 on my winter,I've stuck to 23 for so long,thanks for your input

As it is, 25 generally has lower rollilng resistance than 23, if all else remains equal. But you won't feel it. I'm on 28s for that matter, on one bike and 23 on the other. No discernible difference.

 

[Nigelnaturist]

I've had 3 punctures on a ride with stock kendas,I've had a giant stock haemorrhage after a flint attack on a first week,i replace all my tyre with conti gators,again thats my choice, and I've had a puncture on the first day with them,and then not one all winter ,you pay your money you take your chances,rolling resistance ?ive changed some 23s to a 25s and i feel they roll better,minimalists will say they are heavier,its what suits you and your rides ,personal experience to preference will come with the more miles you do

Not saying my original Kenda's were good, just saying they weren't very bad, bit skittish on handling though, like you I ride on gatorskins these day, my front has over 11,000 miles without a puncture, the rear 23c had two pinch punctures, from hitting stones, one so bad it took a chunk of rubber out of it, still ran a couple of hundred miles till I got a replacement 25c one, I can't tell any difference between 23c or 25c, the rear has now covered nearly 4,500 miles without incident.

 

[Yellow Saddle]

Not saying my original Kenda's were good, just saying they weren't very bad, bit skittish on handling though, like you I ride on gatorskins these day, my front has over 11,000 miles without a puncture, the rear 23c had two pinch punctures, from hitting stones, one so bad it took a chunk of rubber out of it, still ran a couple of hundred miles till I got a replacement 25c one, I can't tell any difference between 23c or 25c, the rear has now covered nearly 4,500 miles without incident.

What do you mean by skittish on handling?

 

[Nigelnaturist]

@Yellow Saddle didn't like the wet to much, tended to want to slip easily so didn't give a lot of confidence in the wet, wasn't a major issue just needed to be aware of it, it might just come down to rubber compond and road conditions, or even at the time my lack of experience, but looking back I would say the tyre had a part to play, I have never since had a front slip on anything but wet lines/metal work/ice, but the front on those did in damp conditions the odd time.

 

[Yellow Saddle]

@Yellow Saddle didn't like the wet to much, tended to want to slip easily so didn't give a lot of confidence in the wet, wasn't a major issue just needed to be aware of it, it might just come down to rubber compond and road conditions, or even at the time my lack of experience, but looking back I would say the tyre had a part to play, I have never since had a front slip on anything but wet lines/metal work/ice, but the front on those did in damp conditions the odd time.

I thought as much. It is impossible to test the grip of a bicycle tyre without getting hurt. That's because it either slips or it doesn't. Unlike car or big motorbike tyres that can skid without completely losing it bicycle tyres are kinda digital. On or off. No in-between. Breakaway is sudden and precipitous. In other words, you get no warning and you cannot make a recovery once it has started to slip.

MTB knobblies have a quasi-slip mode. The long-fingered knobblies "walk" sideways when cornering but that isn't because it slips but because they bend.

Whatever you experienced was purely your imagination and your resultant confidence or lack thereof is unfounded.

 

[Nigelnaturist]

I thought as much. It is impossible to test the grip of a bicycle tyre without getting hurt. That's because it either slips or it doesn't. Unlike car or big motorbike tyres that can skid without completely losing it bicycle tyres are kinda digital. On or off. No in-between. Breakaway is sudden and precipitous. In other words, you get no warning and you cannot make a recovery once it has started to slip.

MTB knobblies have a quasi-slip mode. The long-fingered knobblies "walk" sideways when cornering but that isn't because it slips but because they bend.

Whatever you experienced was purely your imagination and your resultant confidence or lack thereof is unfounded.

Beg to differ, as has happened for whatever the reason the front has slipped, I haven't as yet lost it enough to end up on the deck, I have for other reasons, but as yet not because a tyre has lost adhesion to the road, it could be argued I am not pushing them hard enough then.
Just the other week, both front and rear slipped on the same bit of oil I presume, first the front that regained grip then the rear.however this was at a relatively slow speed it being traffic lights, but a down hill gradient and a right turn so I was already over a little, it was the same with the Kenda's downhill wet, suspect oil may have been involved then. I am not a speed freak, so I don't intend pushing tyres beyond certain limits, but somethings just happen, had a front go on ice and didn't come off (don't ask how I managed that one). if any of these had been at any speed yes i would most likely have been on the deck, however it is not a forgone conclusion providing the wheel is still rotating once it regains grip.

 

[outlash]

I thought as much. It is impossible to test the grip of a bicycle tyre without getting hurt. That's because it either slips or it doesn't. Unlike car or big motorbike tyres that can skid without completely losing it bicycle tyres are kinda digital. On or off. No in-between. Breakaway is sudden and precipitous. In other words, you get no warning and you cannot make a recovery once it has started to slip.

MTB knobblies have a quasi-slip mode. The long-fingered knobblies "walk" sideways when cornering but that isn't because it slips but because they bend.

Whatever you experienced was purely your imagination and your resultant confidence or lack thereof is unfounded.

Really?

 

[Yellow Saddle]

Really?

Which part of it do you disagree with?