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More traffic police.Oh well, nothing to be done then.
At a fraction of the cost of increasing the number of test centres and examiners at least twentyfold, not accounting for retests.
More traffic police.Oh well, nothing to be done then.
It seems a bit Draconian, to me, to use compulsory blanket retesting as a sneaky way of improving air quality and the environment.So wanting cleaner air, safer streets and a better environment for everyone is authoritarian and illiberal?
Put people off their desire to own a car of their own by any means necessary. They're a menace to society. Retesting could be just one of many initiatives.It seems a bit Draconian, to me, to use compulsory blanket retesting as a sneaky way of improving air quality and the environment.
Yup - authoritarian and illiberal.Put people off their desire to own a car of their own by any means necessary. They're a menace to society. Retesting could be just one of many initiatives.
I doubt if the majority of Cycle Chatters would vote you into power on that ticket, let alone out in the wider world.Put people off their desire to own a car of their own by any means necessary. They're a menace to society. Retesting could be just one of many initiatives.
Indeed it could; but at least be honest in the methods used to achieve it.Reducing car usage could be viewed as liberating.
But removing drivers from the road by 'any means necessary' under the guise of road safety, when the real agenda is air quality and the environment?I fail to see how removing the more dangerous drivers from our roads constitutes an underhand way of making them safer and more pleasant all round.
Who said I didn't?Why on earth would you not want safer roads and less polluted air?
The motor vehicle has reduced deaths, not increased them -Why on earth would you not want safer roads and less polluted air?
Their original tests didn't stop them driving badly. Why should a test every five years?I fail to see how removing the more dangerous drivers from our roads constitutes an underhand way of making them safer and more pleasant all round.
That's your perception.Well, you seem to be arguing against positive suggestions the other way.
Fair enough, but I don't share your optimism about education. There will always be drivers who "drive well" when they are being tested or when there is a police car on the inside lane of a motorway. The only way to discourage them from recklessness is for there to be a realistic chance of being caught and punished. That means better enforcement of existing laws, I suggest.
People will behave well in your simulator because they know that they will be not be allowed on the road if they don't. That doesn't mean that they will behave well on the road if there is no disincentive to behaving badly. That's just how people are.Education? I am not talking about education. I am talking about putting people in simulators and testing them for a good length of time under varied conditions. Long enough that most people will struggle to keep up an act.
It doesn't. I'm just questioning the utility of five yearly tests.Why does extra testing rule out effective law enforcement anyway?