Shipping Forecast
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Abitrary said:
*Arch claims to 'like the shipping forecast', even though she hasn't got a clue what it means
*I denounce shipping forecast as *largely* useless, but not entirely, which is why it makes no sense
*Lots of people pile in trying to suggest valid uses for it
*I try to reemphasise that i was not claiming it to be *completely* useless but a fringe service used by a tiny minority of weirdy beardy sailors and shipmen
*Pissing contest about who's better at driving boats, me or the rest i.e. those who think the shipping forecast isn't pointless
*Claims of navigating a boat solely using the shipping forecast are shot down in flames
* More reiterations of possible uses of the shipping forecast
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classic33 said:
presumably they used the shipping forecast, the implication presumably being that therefore it's useful to absolutely everyone in their daily lives and we could never live without it.
* No-one successfully proves any understanding of the shipping forecast, even though we have people other than me who claim they "know about boats".
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bonj said:
I did. Back on page two, I think. Or possibly three. It's easy enough to those of a logical turn of mind.
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bonj said:
No idea, I haven't listened to the shipping forecast for ages. Just because I understand how it works doesn't mean I carry around details of the week's shipping area weather in my head.
Rhythm Thief said:No idea, I haven't listened to the shipping forecast for ages. Just because I understand how it works doesn't mean I carry around details of the week's shipping area weather in my head.
What you haven't listened to it, no, but you've probably heard it. It just didn't sink in. Because it never does.
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No, I haven't heard it. The only time I used to listen to it was at 5.30 in the morning when I was on the early shift, and I haven't been out at that time for months.
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bonj said:
I know exactly what the shipping forecast means. Why don't you shut the hole you're using erroneously as a mouth, and bog off?
Arbitrary, please don't. I have enough trouble sleeping sometimes without nightmares like that.
classic33
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QUOTE=bonj;646961]don't really argue with that, apart from the fact it's largely meaningless, and doesn't really make sense: "the same" radio stations - the same ones as what?
the shipping forecast will only tell you whether or not you're likely to be blown 100metres off course, the simple solution is just to not sail within 100m of dogger's bank...
you don't tend to get that problem on land since you don't have the problem of getting blown off course, largely due to your friction with the ground ...
I haven't really got much idea what you mean by "where does it fit into the scheme of things", but i'll try to answer what i think you mean, which is does it rely the shipping forecast - probably yes, but i'm not sure what that proves. It doesn't make the shipping forecast useful in a mainstream way.[/QUOTE]
See
http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=30425&highlight=wind
also
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/marine/shipping_forecast.html which gives the area covered in the shipping forecasts.
Note that "Mid Atlantic" isn't covered. And would that be mid North Atlantic or mid South Atlantic?
For back on dry land are you trying to say that a side wind has never caught you out, by blowing you off course. Most would correct for it, if they were able. The same would apply to any waterbourne craft. They would also make allowances for the weather. Don't you do that on dry land, before venturing out.
As for the same radio stations(Radio 4, RTE Radio 1) both give shipping forecasts & traffic forecasts/reports
Ben Fogle & Jim Cracknell rowed accross the Atlantic. No sail, no inboard or outboard motor. How does their craft fit into your definition of shipping, given you posted a picture of a small sailboat. Which you said wasn't shipping.
Are you sure what your not talking about?
the shipping forecast will only tell you whether or not you're likely to be blown 100metres off course, the simple solution is just to not sail within 100m of dogger's bank...
you don't tend to get that problem on land since you don't have the problem of getting blown off course, largely due to your friction with the ground ...
I haven't really got much idea what you mean by "where does it fit into the scheme of things", but i'll try to answer what i think you mean, which is does it rely the shipping forecast - probably yes, but i'm not sure what that proves. It doesn't make the shipping forecast useful in a mainstream way.[/QUOTE]
See
http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=30425&highlight=wind
also
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/marine/shipping_forecast.html which gives the area covered in the shipping forecasts.
Note that "Mid Atlantic" isn't covered. And would that be mid North Atlantic or mid South Atlantic?
For back on dry land are you trying to say that a side wind has never caught you out, by blowing you off course. Most would correct for it, if they were able. The same would apply to any waterbourne craft. They would also make allowances for the weather. Don't you do that on dry land, before venturing out.
As for the same radio stations(Radio 4, RTE Radio 1) both give shipping forecasts & traffic forecasts/reports
Ben Fogle & Jim Cracknell rowed accross the Atlantic. No sail, no inboard or outboard motor. How does their craft fit into your definition of shipping, given you posted a picture of a small sailboat. Which you said wasn't shipping.
Are you sure what your not talking about?
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bonj said:
No, the idea is that you do not sink in, you stay afloat.
Not listening to the Shipping Forecast might mean you would sink.
I agree that the concept of it being a Shipping Forecast is difficult for you to grasp Bonj. Think of it instead as a "Forecast for Ships" or a "Weather Forecast for those at Sea", perhaps that will help your brain absorb the complexities of the information.