Security won't let me in Morrisons with my bike

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So people who need mobility aids should be banned from stores, as their aids are inconvenient?


Maybe losing about half one's body weight would be more of an aid than any "mobility aid".
 
Maybe losing about half one's body weight would be more of an aid than any "mobility aid".

My dad recently had to use a mobility scooter. Due to medication related to heart failure his body was storing water. Nothing he can do will lose his "weight".

On top of this he has a paralysed section of vocal chord which prevents him from being able to efficiently hold air in his lungs making even short distances difficult.

Recently the hospital managed to drain nearly 30kg of water from around the stomach! 2 months ago he was in a mobility scooter over the last week he has built a new fence in the garden. Laid stones in his garden. Built some decking. And is waiting for surgery to repair his throat.

What he. And other people don't need on top of their medical conditions is people like you. Judging them based on nothing g other than what you can see. It's not as easy as saying "just lose weight".

It is common. When it was difficult for him to go out due to health issues. Compounded with the abuse he got from public. Meant that even a trip to the park with his grandchild could have him in tears.

Stop judging people when you know nothing of their situation. Your attitude doesn't help anybody.
 
No go at waitrose in Weybridge or Vauxhall IIRC
True, but when there's two of us, it isn't so desperate. When I'm on my own, I say to the security guy "But I promised my friend I'd bring her a pain au raisin, and I don't have a bike lock with me and ......" and then stare at him with big, sad eyes.

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My dad recently had to use a mobility scooter. Due to medication related to heart failure his body was storing water. Nothing he can do will lose his "weight".

On top of this he has a paralysed section of vocal chord which prevents him from being able to efficiently hold air in his lungs making even short distances difficult.

Recently the hospital managed to drain nearly 30kg of water from around the stomach! 2 months ago he was in a mobility scooter over the last week he has built a new fence in the garden. Laid stones in his garden. Built some decking. And is waiting for surgery to repair his throat.

What he. And other people don't need on top of their medical conditions is people like you. Judging them based on nothing g other than what you can see. It's not as easy as saying "just lose weight".

It is common. When it was difficult for him to go out due to health issues. Compounded with the abuse he got from public. Meant that even a trip to the park with his grandchild could have him in tears.

Stop judging people when you know nothing of their situation. Your attitude doesn't help anybody.

Much as I completely agree with what you write, I think Accy might be swayed by the number of them in the UK compared with other countries of the same size population. I think France has 30,000 against our 300,000. In Skeggy they can be hired as easy transport from caravan to pub and back by fit people, maybe this is where people think they might be scroungers or whatever where in reality they may be hard working people who just fancy not walking.
 
Much as I completely agree with what you write, I think Accy might be swayed by the number of them in the UK compared with other countries of the same size population. I think France has 30,000 against our 300,000. In Skeggy they can be hired as easy transport from caravan to pub and back by fit people, maybe this is where people think they might be scroungers or whatever where in reality they may be hard working people who just fancy not walking.

The point wasn't intended to be. There's no lazy scroungers around. The point was that you don't KNOW. Comments may be accurate, but there's also a fair chance it is just another comment made that pushes people further back into recluse.

Even if there's no medical issues, and it's years of bad diet. Around a supermarket, they may be working hard to lose their weight. They may already be 10 stone lighter than 6 months ago. They may be doing exercises but aren't able to walk all the way around yet. Everybody is on a journey, and unless a person knows the full circumstances they should refrain from derogatory comments.

Although, to be fair, hiring them to get back from the pub would have been beneficial in my younger days. Many cuts and bruises would have been saved from attempting the walk :biggrin:
 

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I wonder why the numbers difference though, I must say that all of the people that I know who use them do indeed need them. I must add that as somebody who travels around the country a fair bit Lincolnshire does look like it has more than it's fair share of mobility scooters.
 
Just been thinking about this: all the supermarkets I know in London (except the corner-shop style ones) have security guards. Do they really not have them generally near you? That's nice :smile:

I went to Liverpool on Saturday. The McDonalds in the centre had 2 security guards on at 7pm!
 

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Much as I completely agree with what you write, I think Accy might be swayed by the number of them in the UK compared with other countries of the same size population. I think France has 30,000 against our 300,000. In Skeggy they can be hired as easy transport from caravan to pub and back by fit people, maybe this is where people think they might be scroungers or whatever where in reality they may be hard working people who just fancy not walking.
Yeah but far more people smoke in France (around 10% more of the adult population), I'd rather be around other people who are overweight than those who smoke...

And stats suggest that 24% of the adult population are obese in France versus the Uk's 28% so you may want to check your source (population around 64m versus erm around 64m I think, I'd need to check adult populations)
 
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screenman

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Yeah but far more people smoke in France (around 10% more of the adult population), I'd rather be around other people who are overweight than those who smoke...

And stats suggest that 24% of the adult population are obese in France versus the Uk's 28% so you may want to check your source (population around 64m versus erm around 64m I think, I'd need to check adult populations)

Me too on the smoking bit, I was just thinking out aloud on the number bit though. I must add though when down your way I seldom see a mobility scooter so maybe the people are healthier and fitter. Personally I would not like to have to use one, a certain surgeon 18 years or so ago told me when seeing him about knee arthritus that if I wanted a new car I just had to put on 8 stone. My answer was no thanks I am happy with the one I have, I doubt anybody chooses to need a mobilty scooter.
 
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Maybe losing about half one's body weight would be more of an aid than any "mobility aid".

My wife's grandmother used a mobility scooter due to having curvature of the spine. She is unable to walk 10 yards without chronic pain. Rather than be a burden on others or having the state send carers to help her she uses her mobility scooter to get out, do her own shopping and try keep her independence. I admire her.
What pisses me off is idiots like you who have two legs, healthy and cycle insulting people because you can't do as you want. Reading the rest of your posts in this thread I find it hard to see why anyone would be sympathetic towards you in your thread about 'splitting up from your wife'. Answered your own questions really, if your attitudes anything to go by that's why she has fooked of lad.
And I still think you should park your bike in your arse
 
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