Science deniers. WTF?

[Drago]

We probably shouldn't call them nutters etc. Opinion challenged ?

For some reason the term 'swivel eyed loons' is frowned upon.

Doesn't stop me using it though.

 

[Salty seadog]

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It's true..?

 

[presta]

most humans are not very clever

It's a bit more complicated than that.

Dan Kahan's research into motivated numeracy found that people pick their science to fit their social and political identities, and that intelligent people are better at doing it:

"The reason that citizens remain divided over risks in the face of compelling and widely accessible scientific evidence, this account suggests, is not that that they are insufficiently rational; it is that the that they are too rational in extracting from information on these issues the evidence that matters most for them in their everyday lives. In an environment in which positions on particular policy-relevant facts become widely understood as symbols of individuals’ membership in and loyalty to opposing cultural groups, it will promote people’s individual interests to attend to evidence about those facts in a manner that reliably conforms their beliefs to the ones that predominate in the groups they are members of. Indeed, the tendency to process information in this fashion will be strongest among individuals who display the reasoning capacities most strongly associated with science comprehension.

"Thus, improving public understanding of science and propagating critical reasoning skills—while immensely important, both intrinsically and practi￾cally—cannot be expected to dissipate persistent public conflict over decision-relevant science. Only removing the source of the motivation to process scientific evidence in an identity-protective fashion can. The conditions that generate symbolic associations between positions on risk and like facts, on the one hand, and cultural identities, on the other, must be neutralized in order to assure that citizens make use of their capacity for science comprehension."

In Risk, John Adams notes that hermits who aren't members of social groups are likely to have a more objective and independent outlook than others. People do whatever it takes to fit in, which isn't necessarily what's rational.

 

[newfhouse]

Crazily, even Kubrick could not have done it. The technology to fake it on film did not exist then. It was, literally, easier to go to the moon...

View: https://youtu.be/P6MOnehCOUw

 

[Salty seadog]

The best bit of Science Denier stuff is the theory that the Americans never landed on the Moon

All the photos and videos were taken in a studio and directed by Kubrick (I think)

Basically they decided to go to the Moon and land Men there but when the Scientists tried to work out how to do it they found it was quite difficult

so they calle din Kubrick who looked it all over and worked out how to do it
He was clearly the best person do do it because of his well known and fanatical attention detail perfection

so that is what they did

only thing is his attention to detail was so excessive that he insisted it was all filmed on location!

I actually saw that written as an answer on a conspiracy theory thread (better written than my version)
They reply to the entry was basically "there - told you so - they didn't go there they filmed it on location!!!!"

there are some hilarious entries from people trolling these Science denier's theories!

I point out that if god was the creator of all we have they sure took their time on WiFi.

 

[Rocky]

Ah yes, the Flat Earth society……… a relatively large organisation with members all across the globe

 

[Reynard]

But there's proof the earth can't be flat.

Because if it was, cats would have knocked everything off the edge...

 

[DCBassman]

Dan Kahan's research into motivated numeracy found that people pick their science to fit their social and political identities, and that intelligent people are better at doing it:

Is that not, fundamentally, what I said?

 

[ColinJ]

I sometimes wonder whether the flat-earthers are the world's greatest fibbers and straight-face-keepers! Maybe they are just competing with each other to come up with the most extreme nonsense to explain how a flat earth would work, and not cracking up while doing so...

I had someone at work do that with 'bloody cyclists' once. He started off by saying that cyclists ought to be made to pass cycling tests, have riding licences, be insured, and so on. He saw he was getting a reaction from me and went on to say that cyclists actually shouldn't be allowed on roads at all, but stick to cycle paths. He looked deadly serious. I was about to blow my top, when he smiled and nudged me... "Ha ha, only kidding, mate!"

 

[Salty seadog]

Ah yes, the Flat Earth society……… a relatively large organisation with members all across the globe

Oh the 'irony'

Or is that how we ended up with a flat Earth?

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Apparently space does not exist, we live on a flat disk enclosed in some sort of dome.

Ever noticed it snowing? That is when the giant squirrel shakes the dome.

 

[Salty seadog]

Ever noticed it snowing? That is when the giant squirrel shakes the dome.

It's starting to make sense when you put it like that.

 

[fossyant]

People forget that in the late 50s/early 60s, people were still suffering and dying horribly from polio.
Ask them, "When did you last see a case of that?", and they won't have an idea. because, guess what, vaccines work...
Most humans, including those as old as me, have very short/selective memories, too.
And basic physics easily eludes basic brain cells. What I said above sounded harsh. But it's true, and we've just spent seven years proving it...

Agreed. God yeh, I had Polio vac.

 

[ClichéGuevara]

One of the bits I've never really seen even a reasonable attempted answer to, is why whoever they are would lie to us about the earth being round. What do they gain?

 

[newfhouse]