Sciatica

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Wardy

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I can definitely recommend a course of treatment by a Chiropractor. Painkillers just cover up the basic problem and it just reappears later. I had sciatica a few years back and sitting down was agony. After six visits to my local chiro it had all gone and never came back either. Like the Seal Point by the way!
 
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Campfire

Campfire

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numbnuts, will keep my fingers crossed for you re the MRI scan. I would be terrified of going into one of those. Someone said keep your eyes closed!

Thank you Wardy, he is beautiful, isn't he? I got him 3rd hand from a neighbour's son who'se wife couldn't stand him once she'd got the ring on the finger! Saw them the other day at a family wedding and she said she was so sick of him she could have chopped him up! Nice hey? Because of being passed from pillar to post, he does sometimes have some VERY antisocial habits, you can guess what, but we both love him and wouldn't swap him, he is so loving.

After the last weekend when OH was going to take me to casualty in the middle of the night as nothing was working, I went to see an acupuncturist and have had one treatment (free) and will have another one on Friday or more if necessary. It seemed a bit better yesterday but today I feel a bit 'yukk' so imagine it is part of the treatment. I'm not going to try cycling until after then. This guy put me at my ease, is fairly local and - is English the main thing about that is he can understand what I am selling, whereas some of the Chinese practitioners, just can't. He also doesn't try to peddle extra herbs etc. Hope it works - am fairly hopeful. Thanks for all the advice.
 

Wardy

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Thank you Wardy, he is beautiful, isn't he? I got him 3rd hand from a neighbour's son who'se wife couldn't stand him once she'd got the ring on the finger! Saw them the other day at a family wedding and she said she was so sick of him she could have chopped him up! Nice hey? Because of being passed from pillar to post, he does sometimes have some VERY antisocial habits, you can guess what, but we both love him and wouldn't swap him, he is so loving.

After the last weekend when OH was going to take me to casualty in the middle of the night as nothing was working, I went to see an acupuncturist and have had one treatment (free) and will have another one on Friday or more if necessary. It seemed a bit better yesterday but today I feel a bit 'yukk' so imagine it is part of the treatment. I'm not going to try cycling until after then. This guy put me at my ease, is fairly local and - is English the main thing about that is he can understand what I am selling, whereas some of the Chinese practitioners, just can't. He also doesn't try to peddle extra herbs etc. Hope it works - am fairly hopeful. Thanks for all the advice.

He looks gorgeous. Our first one lived until he was 19. The kids used to dress him up in dolls clothes and he just sat there enjoying it all! A chiro will actually treat the root cause of your sciatica - usually by adjustment to the sections of your spine. If it's out of alignment (and it can be from birth) it can put pressure on a nerve, giving rise to various problems. I used to go to a traditional type of chiro but didn't like the semi-wrestling type contortions he put me through. However, you can get ones who use a sort of pressure instrument - painfree and very effective. Worth every penny.
 

Lizzy

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Location
Surrey
This may or maynot help. I used to/sometimes have siatica, the easiest way to relieve the symptoms was to sleep on the floor, damned uncomfortable but it seemed to work for my back. You have my sympathies, its not an easy one to have.

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Campfire

Campfire

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I went to see acupuncturist again. He said I had a trapped nerve not sciatica as there was no pain at base of the back where it should have been. The problem was that sciatica is easier to pin down.

I have had about 3 sessions. The pain has improved somewhat. I can sleep comfortably but am still suffering a cold and painful heel and various mild pains. It is worse when walking around and standing about. Easier when cycling, and I've just started doing a little, although there is still not much power there in the left leg. I'm just grateful that I can cycle as walking was not easy. I'm going back in a couple of weeks for a check over after York Rally. I've got a good excuse for taking it easy.
 

hx13

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I went to see acupuncturist again. He said I had a trapped nerve not sciatica as there was no pain at base of the back where it should have been. The problem was that sciatica is easier to pin down.

I have had about 3 sessions. The pain has improved somewhat. I can sleep comfortably but am still suffering a cold and painful heel and various mild pains. It is worse when walking around and standing about. Easier when cycling, and I've just started doing a little, although there is still not much power there in the left leg. I'm just grateful that I can cycle as walking was not easy. I'm going back in a couple of weeks for a check over after York Rally. I've got a good excuse for taking it easy.


Sciatica is as a result of a trapped/inflammed sciatic nerve. The pain from this won't necessarily be felt in the base of the back and can be anywhere from the lumbar region of the spine to the foot and might not be always radiate between those two points. (you might just get pins and needles in the foot). It could be worth following a stretching routine concentrating particularly on your piriformis muscle as this can sometimes pinch the sciiatic nerve. I hope things improve for you soon.
 

doog

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I am a long term sciatica sufferer having suffered a prolapsed disc L5/S1 3 years ago. I have been on diclofenac on and off since then.

I was a long distance runner and that hobby has disappeared however I continue to cycle. 10 days ago my back went again when I lifted a ladder and I have been off work since. I am now on codeine / paracetamol and Naproxen.

I am absolutely gutted, my cycling was really taking off. I had recently cycled from Girona to St Malo , 750 miles in 10 days and camped all the way. I had lost weight and did several 100 mile rides on the trip (one 140 mile). Fit as a fiddle, so I thought,however one thing I had let go was my core strengthening exercises and now here I am.

I cant walk 100 yards, cant bend or sit down and am drugged up to the eyeballs. They wont operate and the NHS waiting time for physio is 10 weeks and my bike is gathering dust.

My doctor states I have aggravated the old injury and it will settle down again.

To all fellow sciatica sufferers you have my sympathy.
 

hx13

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Location
Essex
Doog. My wife suffered 2 prolapsed discs and was told she'd never run again by a consultant. We discovered the theraflex machine at this clinic.

http://www.backcarec...rg.uk/index.cfm If you call or contact them speak to Irene. she is an expert in the field.


We were sceptical as I'm sure you probably will be but after just 3 treatments all sciatic issues had gone.
A few years on and she has run 4 marathons and regularly runs 4-5 times a week. I recommend you take a look.

All the best.


I am a long term sciatica sufferer having suffered a prolapsed disc L5/S1 3 years ago. I have been on diclofenac on and off since then.

I was a long distance runner and that hobby has disappeared however I continue to cycle. 10 days ago my back went again when I lifted a ladder and I have been off work since. I am now on codeine / paracetamol and Naproxen.

I am absolutely gutted, my cycling was really taking off. I had recently cycled from Girona to St Malo , 750 miles in 10 days and camped all the way. I had lost weight and did several 100 mile rides on the trip (one 140 mile). Fit as a fiddle, so I thought,however one thing I had let go was my core strengthening exercises and now here I am.

I cant walk 100 yards, cant bend or sit down and am drugged up to the eyeballs. They wont operate and the NHS waiting time for physio is 10 weeks and my bike is gathering dust.

My doctor states I have aggravated the old injury and it will settle down again.

To all fellow sciatica sufferers you have my sympathy.
 

ventoux50

Active Member
It didn't start cycling and I think I've remembered something that happened a few days before, I slipped down a steep bank of mud when I was walking,
I noticed the lack of power on the left leg whilst cycling, after noticing a slight difficulty of putting weight on that leg going upstairs.


Hi Campfire,,

have read your posts with interest, and a little unease, your description of the mechanism of injury (above) says more than any bike riding, or other possible cause.

Without the benefit of examining you hands on, and by way of an educated guess only I would offer the following observations:

  • a traumatic incident (fall) can injure muscles, joints, bones, and intervertebral discs.
  • piriformis syndrome is effectively an 'overuse' injury to a specific muscle which develops over time (although the piriformis muscle may be one that is bruised following a fall)
  • the extent of radicular pain and/or altered sensation/muscle weakness is a good indicator of the 'severity' of the problem
  • pain masking drugs will not address underlying mechanical problems (e.g. disc) and although the pain may be lessened, it will probably return when you stop taking them.
  • the same applies to acupuncture - it is very useful for relieving pain by stimulating the release of endorphins, but will not 'cure' mechanical insufficiencies.


I suspect that you may have caused some disruption to a disc which may now be impinging on the nerve root serving the areas you describe.

As we age, discs become less malleable and are more prone to prolapsing, if, as you describe , you fall heavily on one side and at the same time compress the waist on one side, a disc may be inclined to slightly prolapse on the opposite side - interfering with the nerve root adjacent to it. I would guess that you probably fell on your right hip and may have been twisting slightly at the time, or when you stood back up ? (am I right ?)

As you did this the offending disc will have ever so slightly pushed outwards beyond its normal limits to rub against the nerve root on the left side of your lower spine - hence the affectation of the left leg.

Imagine a disc as a water filled balloon held between to hands horizontally - if you compress one side the other side bulges - as per the disc.

These bulges occur naturally every day but as a rule regain their normal shape as we move.
Again with ageing and traumatic events which overstress the normal status, the bulge can be more pronounced and might not fully return to normal.

There are methods of addressing injuries such as this, but you must see the right person - either a physiotherapist, chiropractor or osteopath.

please don't waste any more money/time on acupuncture, it's not appropriate at this point.

Apologies for the lengthy reply, but hopefully some of it makes sense.

Although I don't like to encourage self help with back injuries, if you look here :

http://www.easyvigour.net.nz/fitness/h_MckenzieExt.htm

http://www.spine-health.com/wellness/exercise/what-mckenzie-method-back-pain-and-neck-pain


you will get an idea of the physiotherapy (evidence based) approaches to the problem.

Good luck with it :thumbsup:
 

doog

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Doog. My wife suffered 2 prolapsed discs and was told she'd never run again by a consultant. We discovered the theraflex machine at this clinic.

http://www.backcarec...rg.uk/index.cfm If you call or contact them speak to Irene. she is an expert in the field.


We were sceptical as I'm sure you probably will be but after just 3 treatments all sciatic issues had gone.
A few years on and she has run 4 marathons and regularly runs 4-5 times a week. I recommend you take a look.

All the best.



may thanks for that..i will have a look

its now got so bad I am now on amitriptyline in addition to Naproxen, Codeine and paracetamol. My work have paid for some private physio,and talking to the physio at the first session on Friday she stated she did NHS in the mornings and there is no waiting list whatsoever. I see my GP on monday and will take this up with him.
 
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