Running

[nigelnorris]

When you walk you raise your entire body weight with each step; when you run you raise it even further. On a bike you only lift your legs, which is why cycling is so much more efficient.

Which is why the first statement makes sense. You might have misunderstood me, when I said the effort required to move from a to b remains constant I meant if you are on a bike. Cycling at walking pace or at relatively high speed must surely use roughly the same amount of energy to travel a fixed distance of say a mile, which will be less than walking the same distance.

I don't see the point of your comparison between plodding along on foot and thrashing yourself on a bike. If you are talking about severity of exercise, people usually do it at the same discomfort threshold no matter what it is. I use more calories a minute swimming front crawl than shuffling to the shops, but so what?

The point was that it doesn't make much sense to say that "Cycling requires LESS calories PER MINUTE than...[anything really]', because in this case the energy used per unit of time depends entirely on the speed at which you are cycling. That's all I meant.

If you want to qualify the statement by specifying workrate, be it at a given discomfort threshold or whatever other criteria you might choose then yes, it becomes a more reasonable comparison.

 

[PpPete]

If you want to go running, dont do it on the roads.

Its boring and kills you knees....much more fun to get off-road and get dirty.

Even better, head off up into the Fells.

All right for you - you live near the fells, you lucky b***d.
Believe me, training for any long distance mountain event (like the OMM or Lakeland 50) when you live in Hampshire is a real challenge.

 

[Goffins]

I'm a half decent runner who has been out of it for a while due to a torn ACL but I was tempted into having a go quite recently. All strapped up, I automatically assumed the daily cycle commute thrash would have helped me ease back into running but I was shocked, It was almost like i'd been doing no fitness. The next day a whole different set of muscles reminded me of their existance.

 

[montage]

All right for you - you live near the fells, you lucky b***d.
Believe me, training for any long distance mountain event (like the OMM or Lakeland 50) when you live in Hampshire is a real challenge.

Where abouts your based?

 

[Al Fowler]

All right for you - you live near the fells, you lucky b***d.
Believe me, training for any long distance mountain event (like the OMM or Lakeland 50) when you live in Hampshire is a real challenge.

Gutted, i havent done any mountain marathons...didnt get chance.

Did my first fell race on the 9th Novemeber, by the 11th november my knee started knocking and since them i now have Iliotibial Band Syndrome on both knees, and as a result of that ive wrecked my Medial Colateral Ligaments in both knees.
I havent training for 6 months apart from a slow jog round a race route, and two sessions of hill reps.
Ive raced a few times whilst being injured, i cant do long stuff because my lack of training means i just blow up, but im still pretty good on the short stuff.
Did a 4.5 mile race last saturday, managed 8th out of 155.

 

[Jim_Noir]

Hello

I run at least 5k a day, also every 2nd day I do sprints. I also do 2 hours Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu a day, plus oter gym stuff (core ball, tone etc). Started cyceling to work in Feb and like all other fittness stuff I have become hooked! I have noticed my pace for running long distance has improved with the bike, also have put on half a stone of leg muscle which sounds good but has effed up my fighting weight a bit!
My cycle to work is only 12k, so as yet I havn't done a long distance cycle but have one planned in the next few weeks.

 

[The Jogger]

I managed to get a 4 miler in yesterday from work, hammersmith bridge to barnes bridge , both sides of the river. seemed strange running on the flat as oppossed to the south downs. now just need to part commute on the bike and build in more runs on my break.

 

[wilko]

I started running back in February in an attempt to lose some weight and get a bit fitter. Now running 3 miles every other day and occasionally run 5 miles and even managed a 6.2 mile run last week. Have now also taken up cycling and bought myself a Specialized Sirrus Sport which I am very happy with. Just cycling 6 miles at the moment, but intend to up that as I become more proficient and fitter.

 

[beanzontoast]

I've never been a runner, though I have tried - and this is in spite of being almost terminally put off exercise of any kind while at school 40 years ago, where the pe teacher's fondness for cross-country in all weathers was truly grim. The best I ever managed in adult life was about 8 miles and my knees killed me for the rest of the day. On top of this, I could never get the breathing right over any distance - I always seemed to end up out of breath. Most of the people I see out jogging look as though they aren't really enjoying what they are doing.

Nowadays, my thighs are the wrong (i.e. cyclists) shape for running. Well, that's a good enough excuse for me!

 

[Jambon]

I'm a half decent runner who has been out of it for a while due to a torn ACL but I was tempted into having a go quite recently. All strapped up, I automatically assumed the daily cycle commute thrash would have helped me ease back into running but I was shocked, It was almost like i'd been doing no fitness. The next day a whole different set of muscles reminded me of their existance.

Mate im exactly the same minus the acl tear. I used to run seriously as a junior then discovered beer and women and soon lost interest, finished uni and started working full time and had a lazy girlfriend with a terrible diet, anyway got shot of her and met a new girl who worked out a lot and ate well, I got back into running but only 1-2 miles every other night. Built up decent core fitness over Xmas and was able to start playing football again, plus it really helped with my bike.

This morning I woke up and discovered I had a flat tyre, so I decided to run to work, it’s 4.6 miles. I swear I don’t think I have ever been so tired for years! Literally my legs are aching and I’ve been at work for an hour and a half! I’ve cycled the same route for 3 months and had no problems; it’s a completely different kettle of fish. Think im going to have to get out on the roads again a couple of times a week.

 

[colcazal]

I did alot of running when I initially started to worry about my weight. Running is very effect burning the old calories and I lost weight very quickly. Now I only run in the winter. Last year I was running avg 6min 30sec mile over my 6.25mile circuit. However I always find running is more painful on the muscles, ankles and bones.

Personally I think that running doesn't compliment cycling or vice versa, as I will no doubt find out when the running shoes are dug out.

Colcazal