Rugby at school level
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Drago
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They should man up. Statisitically school rugby is safer than many sports. I remember a lad speared through the neck with a javelin when I was at school, but track and field doesn't earn so much as a murmur.
Some of these kids will get eaten alive at every level when they enter the real world. I bet the number of adults who die through heart attacks that were driven to school and who never exercised in their lives is far greater thant those killed at kiddy rugby.
Child suicide is a bigger killer than kiddie rugby - lets concentrate on the biggest dangers and resolve them before wasting effort on the minutiae.
Some of these kids will get eaten alive at every level when they enter the real world. I bet the number of adults who die through heart attacks that were driven to school and who never exercised in their lives is far greater thant those killed at kiddy rugby.
Child suicide is a bigger killer than kiddie rugby - lets concentrate on the biggest dangers and resolve them before wasting effort on the minutiae.
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Levo-Lon
Guru
I think its more a case of bad teaching rather than contact alone.
I went to a school where Rugby was a once or twice a year event.
Muddy and cold, lets go and play Rugby..
Local lad has spent his life in a wheelchair after breaking his neck.
Should they ban contact?
I broke my leg playing football, finger playing Cricket.
All other serious injuries were falling out of trees and being a kid
I went to a school where Rugby was a once or twice a year event.
Muddy and cold, lets go and play Rugby..
Local lad has spent his life in a wheelchair after breaking his neck.
Should they ban contact?
I broke my leg playing football, finger playing Cricket.
All other serious injuries were falling out of trees and being a kid
Drago
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The Liberals.
They don't have anything productive or positive to do, so to justify their existence they latch on to irrelevant or specious topics to justify their jobs. Instead of being sacked/made redundant for having nothing to do, the senior managers let them get on with it, paying their salaries out of the public purse as they go.
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Heltor Chasca
Out-riding the Black Dog
Groundsmen and greenkeepers need training too. A guy was killed in sixth form when I played. It was because the grass was clipped very short wherever lines were painted to make the job easier for the staff. The guy hit is head in a tackle and died as a result.
I'm fairly sure I remember more injuries happening to the hockey players. I don't agree with a ban. More people die on the sofa watching Sky.
I'm fairly sure I remember more injuries happening to the hockey players. I don't agree with a ban. More people die on the sofa watching Sky.
welsh dragon
Thanks but no thanks. I think I'll pass.
Its a tough decision. My grandsom plays rugby at school. One of his team mates was tackled. Went down, hit his head and the injury resulted in him having a stroke. A higly intelligent young man, can hardly remember his own name now, and has had to learn how to walk all over agan.
It is easy for people to say MTFU, but i doubt people would feel like that if it happened to their own child. On the other hand, dangers exist in everything we do and everywhere we go. Maybe it is more a case of teachers being better trained, and instilling more discipline where the rules are concerned.
It is easy for people to say MTFU, but i doubt people would feel like that if it happened to their own child. On the other hand, dangers exist in everything we do and everywhere we go. Maybe it is more a case of teachers being better trained, and instilling more discipline where the rules are concerned.
Drago
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As aforementioned, far more people have strokes through never exercising. Nothing is certain, one can only deal in probabilities, but the probability of having a stroke playing rugby is dwarfed by the probability of karking it through being a couch potato.
Id be more upset of one of my adult children died of avoidable illness brought about by poor lifestyle.
Id be more upset of one of my adult children died of avoidable illness brought about by poor lifestyle.
I played rugby and never gave it a thought, I now have three grandson's and I grandaughter playing, I worry more about them then I ever did about myself, because of the difference in size you get with school teams I have seen one of the grandsons sat on and bent double by a lad bigger than me, but they all love it, one of the grandson has just broke his collar bone cycling but was back on the rugby pitch within four week against everybody's advice,
I can understand the concern but there is risks in everything.
I can understand the concern but there is risks in everything.
Absolutely. Although it isn't actually a requirement that the sports children take part in be contact sports...
TBH, I think school sports has a fair bit to answer for in putting young people off physical activity. If your experience of PE is that of being cold, wet, miserable and getting injured whilse being yelled at by the players who are also on the school team for being a bit shoot it is quite easy to be put off.
My eldest loved football, until he got to the age that there was a school team (so about 7) and it suddenly became important to be good - despite the fact that he actually was pretty decent. He just couldn't cope with the aggression on the pitch and the power rankings in the playground. He loved swimming until he was made to do it at school, and the final straw was the (lack of) organisation of the swimming competition which led to a full on aspie meltdown and he's never willingly got in the water since. He loved cricket, hockey and anything bat-n-ball-ish in primary but by the time it came around on the timetable in secondary was so utterly despondent about PE in general that they were on to a loser before they started. Secondary school PE has changed his self-perception regarding sport enormously. He used to see himself very much as a physically active and fit person. He rode a 4 day coast to coast at 8 and a few 100km audaxes as a pre-teen and a FNRttC at about 12 and would in the past have a go at pretty much any physical challenge. It took less than a year of secondary for him to loathe all PE.
Mind, he reckons that rugby isn't as shoot as football.
My 2 cents.
1.) It is a question of coaching, not location. The problem is with poor coaching and poor coaching support rather than the fact that it is in a school environment. the fact that the two often go hand in hand does not mean that contact should be banned in schools.
2.) Mixed sizes/weights. I think another problem is that kids physically mature at different ages. It is slightly disheartening and often dangerous to be a couple of feet shorter and a few stone lighter than 'Billy the Beard' at the age of 12 who just steamrollers through everyone. It also does not help Billy who sooner or later stops growing and realises that the steamrollering skill is all he has in his locker.
1.) It is a question of coaching, not location. The problem is with poor coaching and poor coaching support rather than the fact that it is in a school environment. the fact that the two often go hand in hand does not mean that contact should be banned in schools.
2.) Mixed sizes/weights. I think another problem is that kids physically mature at different ages. It is slightly disheartening and often dangerous to be a couple of feet shorter and a few stone lighter than 'Billy the Beard' at the age of 12 who just steamrollers through everyone. It also does not help Billy who sooner or later stops growing and realises that the steamrollering skill is all he has in his locker.
GrumpyGregry
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Junior rugby in these islands needs to learn from the Kiwis and match players by weight not age.
Scrums should be uncontested in all internal school games with contested scrums kept for representative matches with experienced qualified Society referees.
Children who don't want to play contact sports should not be compelled to do so.
Scrums should be uncontested in all internal school games with contested scrums kept for representative matches with experienced qualified Society referees.
Children who don't want to play contact sports should not be compelled to do so.
lazybloke
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PE absolutely should be compulsory for children, to promote heathy active lifestyles, but I can't see a reason why that should mean contact sports for everyone.
Never did me any harm at grammar school.........apart from the broken rib, dislocated shoulder and concussion.........all character building stuff.
