Riser Stem

[montage]

Or I could have read the part where you said you are getting an adjustable stem

And Randochap might come accross a little aggressive or whatever but he is trying to help

 

[4F]

good point, I went with an adjustable stem and glad I did.

Adjustable stem and butterfly bars oh lordy MacB whatever are we going to do with you

 

[Randochap]

Randochap - do you make a habit of being obnoxious to new members?

No; I try to offer solid advice, based on more than 40 years of experience on the bike and years besides in top-flight bicycle stores. I do speak plainly, some might think bluntly.

Your post is condescending and not at all helpful. You presume to know more about my requirements and use of a bike than myself. I'm not after a comfort bike, I require a MTB because I want to use it both on and off-road, I however do want the position and fit of the bike to be optimal.

I don't see how my post is in any way condescending. It may well be that my judgement of your needs doesn't coincide with what you think/know they are (as I said, I don't know exactly what kind of offroad terrain you are going to ride and I don't know your skill level) but it may well be that I know better than you do. You've posted here in the Beginners Forum asking for advice and I've offered it based on the above credentials.

A MTB is unsuitable for any great amount of road use. That is a fact. So that's why I encouraged you to be honest with yourself regarding how much time you actually will be on the trails. I'm not going to waste a moment longer explaining this simple concept to the unreceptive.

Not all of us are a cycling god such as yourself and have to make due with less than perfect solutions (sic).

Now that's definitely condescending, obnoxious, more than a little defensive not to mention totally uncalled for. Blunder on, mate. I sincerely hope your "less than perfect solutions" work.

It's apparent that any outside council is wasted on you, so why bother asking?

The following is a general question for the forum:

How many of you would buy a new bike from an LBS and then pay extra money to an outside source for components to tweak the fit?

 

[ByronBlack]

No; I try to offer solid advice, based on more than 40 years of experience on the bike and years besides in top-flight bicycle stores. I do speak plainly, some might think bluntly.



I don't see how my post is in any way condescending. It may well be that my judgement of your needs doesn't coincide with what you think/know they are (as I said, I don't know exactly what kind of offroad terrain you are going to ride and I don't know your skill level) but it may well be that I know better than you do. You've posted here in the Beginners Forum asking for advice and I've offered it based on the above credentials.

A MTB is unsuitable for any great amount of road use. That is a fact. So that's why I encouraged you to be honest with yourself regarding how much time you actually will be on the trails. I'm not going to waste a moment longer explaining this simple concept to the unreceptive.



Now that's definitely condescending, obnoxious, more than a little defensive not to mention totally uncalled for. Blunder on, mate. I sincerely hope your "less than perfect solutions" work.

It's apparent that any outside council is wasted on you, so why bother asking?

The following is a general question for the forum:

How many of you would buy a new bike from an LBS and then pay extra money to an outside source for components to tweak the fit?

You were condescending by presuming that I need a comfort bike when I don't, also with your dismissive comment of 'lead a horse to water', and you were judgmental. And you compound it by your last question, so what if I want to buy my own components to adjust a fit, I have perfectly valid reasons, and you only bring up that question as a way of belittling my decision - and again, you presume that I will be buying this component, how do you know that I haven't already been to my LBS and have him order an adjustable stem?

The other members here on this thread have been courteous and have offered the advice I required - i.e. an adjustable stem is likely to fix the fit. And I really appreciate that, so thank you to all that have helped.

Anyways, I'm sure you were just trying to help, but saying this like this doesn't help:

I don't know exactly what kind of offroad terrain you are going to ride and I don't know your skill level) but it may well be that I know better than you do.

In one breath, you admit to not knowing my requirements, (despite presuming to know in the previous thread), and then go on to say that you still know better than I do, again despite not knowing what I use the bike for.

Also, I realise an MTB is not suitable for a lot of road use, but where I have said that it will be used this way? Again, you presume. I do not have the funds to have a different bike for every different use and nor do I want multiple bikes, so yes, an MTB is a less than perfect solution, but still a highly adequate one - that was never in question, I was for asking for a fitting question.

 

[MacB]

Adjustable stem and butterfly bars oh lordy MacB whatever are we going to do with you

I'm now feverishly searching the web for more things I can add that will cause you to shake your head Have just ordered the powergrip straps to try out for my fixie experiment.