RideLondon-Surrey 100 (2014!!!) Anyone?

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Have signed up to do this for the first time this year for Terrence Higgins Trust. I do 4 rides a week of c17.5 miles each and have started to add weekend longer rides. 30 miles two weekends ago and 40 miles this weekend.

I live very near the route at Walton on Thames so can get out and practice the sections in the Surrey Hills. The 40 miles this weekend started at Walton Bridge and headed out along the route to the A25 (there is a 4 miles climb up to the A25 which is not what you need as you approach Newlands) and then up the climb to Newlands Corner. The mid section of this climb is fairly steep (10%ish i think and i was in my lowest gear doing 6.5mph) and gets you breathing fast but its a fairly short amount of pain as long as you keep the legs spinning. My lowest gear (currently) is 36/25 and so am getting a 28 put on the back in the next few weeks to help me get up the 15% sections on Leith Hill so we missed that section out and headed to Dorking along the A25 east (that is a category 5 hill on it for those that think its flat - its not) before routing back through leather head to Cobham and home. 40 miles in 2hr 21 minutes which is just over 17mph pace (three of us riding) and 1550ft of climbing so quite happy with progress and also pleased that Newlands Corner is already under my belt this far out from the actual day. Leith concerns me - i went and drove up it a week ago and there are 5 separate sections that kick up to 10-15% and with 55 miles in my legs that is going to be challenging on the day. Once I get the 28 cassette on the back will add this into my training route giving me a 50 mile circuit including the two hardest sections. As we get nearer the day I can add in box hill but am not too concerned with that one.

Leith Hill, or Lethal as it is also called was a bit of a shocker, I saw a few people go sideways unfortunately, it was not just the steepness but also the fact you don't have alot of room to manoeuvre with the other cyclists around. I was really pleased to make it without stopping. The thing about Leith Hill is it seems to just go on forever. All I can say is keep practising hills, go find them, conquer them. I was running a triple crankset up-front so I guess I had it easy!
 

Longshot

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Leith Hill, or Lethal as it is also called was a bit of a shocker, I saw a few people go sideways unfortunately, it was not just the steepness but also the fact you don't have alot of room to manoeuvre with the other cyclists around. I was really pleased to make it without stopping. The thing about Leith Hill is it seems to just go on forever. All I can say is keep practising hills, go find them, conquer them. I was running a triple crankset up-front so I guess I had it easy!

I was particularly impressed by the bloke in front of me who stopped, climbed off his bike and turned it sideways to walk to the roadside making me stop in the process - just what you need halfway up Leith Hill :rolleyes: It was by far the most crowded section of the ride.

The Wimbledon hill is fine, just caught a lot of people out as they were beginning to relax and think of The Mall.
 

procel

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South London
The route has been released, a few slight changes from last year. The good news for me is that this year it goes through Oxshott instead of Cobham, as it did in 2012. My parents live in Oxshott so they can have a great view.
http://www.prudentialridelondon.co.uk/Page14359.aspx

The pro-ride looks substantially different but the only difference I can see on the 100 is that it cuts a corner off in not going via Cobham. Is it still 100 mi?
 

Stedman

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Have signed up to do this for the first time this year for Terrence Higgins Trust. I do 4 rides a week of c17.5 miles each and have started to add weekend longer rides. 30 miles two weekends ago and 40 miles this weekend.

I live very near the route at Walton on Thames so can get out and practice the sections in the Surrey Hills. The 40 miles this weekend started at Walton Bridge and headed out along the route to the A25 (there is a 4 miles climb up to the A25 which is not what you need as you approach Newlands) and then up the climb to Newlands Corner. The mid section of this climb is fairly steep (10%ish i think and i was in my lowest gear doing 6.5mph) and gets you breathing fast but its a fairly short amount of pain as long as you keep the legs spinning. My lowest gear (currently) is 36/25 and so am getting a 28 put on the back in the next few weeks to help me get up the 15% sections on Leith Hill so we missed that section out and headed to Dorking along the A25 east (that is a category 5 hill on it for those that think its flat - its not) before routing back through leather head to Cobham and home. 40 miles in 2hr 21 minutes which is just over 17mph pace (three of us riding) and 1550ft of climbing so quite happy with progress and also pleased that Newlands Corner is already under my belt this far out from the actual day. Leith concerns me - i went and drove up it a week ago and there are 5 separate sections that kick up to 10-15% and with 55 miles in my legs that is going to be challenging on the day. Once I get the 28 cassette on the back will add this into my training route giving me a 50 mile circuit including the two hardest sections. As we get nearer the day I can add in box hill but am not too concerned with that one.
I did the this event last year and back in March then, as I was down attending a meeting, I specifically did a recky on both Leith and Box Hill which is well worth doing so that you get a feel for both the gears and strategy which you are going to later adopt. By doing this I also found that the standard 53/38 chain-rings and 23-11 cassette on my competition bike was sufficient for this.


On the day, because of the initial fast pace, I found the lactic acid first kicking in at Newlands Corner where I found it difficult to stand on the peddles without my legs locking up with cramp! After that I needed to ease up and change my cycling style in order to keep my legs moving smoothly.


To summarise the notable hills on the course:


· Richmond Park, longish (slight) up-hill gradient type hill and nothing to worry about. My RL100 hill score of the day 2-3/10

· Newlands, Medium gradient and medium length hill, but it is a steady gradient. 6/10

· Leith Hill, moderate gradient for 2/3rds and then it starts to bite with a series of ramps and even when you think that you have got to the top, it ramps up again! 10/10 as this left me recovering my breath at the top. Carful off the top as the roads are dark, twisty and slippery, however when you turn the corner, there is a fast straight run where I maxed my speed at 45 mph!

· Box Hill, steady/moderate gradient with a super smooth road, however it has a false top and continues with a gentle climb after the National Trust Café. 7/10 only for its length.

· Immediately after Box Hill is another medium height / medium gradient hill. 6/10 for its surprise factor.

· Wimbledon Hill, I am sure that this is 0.5 miles and is another medium height / medium gradient hill. On tired legs 6-7/10 however the upside is the fast run down Putney Hill, through the High Street and on-to Putney Bridge.
 
Just checked the Wimbledon hill out on google street view. The hill in question is called Wimbledon Hill Road and the hill part is on the A219 road from Woodside to Belvedere Rd. Its 0.2 miles long and I walked up it to go to Wimbledon Tennis last year and its not that steep - probably on par with the small climb in Richmond park on the way out of London. Obviously with 90 miles in the legs it may be a bit more challenging but ordinarily this shouldn't present an issue for anyone who has been training to get up Leith, Newlands and Box etc. Knowing it is there and preparing for it psychologically is half the battle I suspect.
You're right. It's not that bad a hill. It's just a shock as the 25 miles before it are quite "easy" and you can knock along at a quick pace. You get it into your head that that's the way it's going to be until the finish line and then BANG! Did the route last year and was great fun. Just watch out for the thousands of discarded gel wrappers in Wimbledon too!
 

Longshot

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Surrey
I did the this event last year and back in March then, as I was down attending a meeting, I specifically did a recky on both Leith and Box Hill which is well worth doing so that you get a feel for both the gears and strategy which you are going to later adopt. By doing this I also found that the standard 53/38 chain-rings and 23-11 cassette on my competition bike was sufficient for this.


On the day, because of the initial fast pace, I found the lactic acid first kicking in at Newlands Corner where I found it difficult to stand on the peddles without my legs locking up with cramp! After that I needed to ease up and change my cycling style in order to keep my legs moving smoothly.


To summarise the notable hills on the course:


· Richmond Park, longish (slight) up-hill gradient type hill and nothing to worry about. My RL100 hill score of the day 2-3/10

· Newlands, Medium gradient and medium length hill, but it is a steady gradient. 6/10

· Leith Hill, moderate gradient for 2/3rds and then it starts to bite with a series of ramps and even when you think that you have got to the top, it ramps up again! 10/10 as this left me recovering my breath at the top. Carful off the top as the roads are dark, twisty and slippery, however when you turn the corner, there is a fast straight run where I maxed my speed at 45 mph!

· Box Hill, steady/moderate gradient with a super smooth road, however it has a false top and continues with a gentle climb after the National Trust Café. 7/10 only for its length.

· Immediately after Box Hill is another medium height / medium gradient hill. 6/10 for its surprise factor.

· Wimbledon Hill, I am sure that this is 0.5 miles and is another medium height / medium gradient hill. On tired legs 6-7/10 however the upside is the fast run down Putney Hill, through the High Street and on-to Putney Bridge.

Good summary. The only additional comment that I would make is that Newlands is steepest at the bottom, round the left hand bend then flattens gradually the more you go up. It's a bit of a case of gritting your teeth at the bottom and then recovering as the gradient declines.
 

Stedman

Active Member
Longshot, You are right. All I remember about Newlands last year, was suddenly the road ramped up and I had to drop into my smaller ring for the first time. Having prior knowledge of exactly where this was and the gradient would have been useful in my race plan.

This was one of the hills I should have better researched!
 

Longshot

Senior Member
Location
Surrey
Longshot, You are right. All I remember about Newlands last year, was suddenly the road ramped up and I had to drop into my smaller ring for the first time. Having prior knowledge of exactly where this was and the gradient would have been useful in my race plan.

This was one of the hills I should have better researched!


It's four miles from my house. I know it far too well!!
 

PK99

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Location
SW19
It's four miles from my house. I know it far too well!!

The hill up to Newland's corner is a hill we always avoid, not because it is too hard but the traffic can be nasty - it will be a blast to do it traffic free.

The decent from the top toward Shere is utterly magnificent - again, it will be good to do it traffic free
 
The pro-ride looks substantially different but the only difference I can see on the 100 is that it cuts a corner off in not going via Cobham. Is it still 100 mi?
Yes, last year it was approximately 104 miles. Cutting the corner brings it down to about 101.5m. Then of course you have the pleasure of cycling to the start, and away from the finish, which adds a few more miles :-)
 
The hill up to Newland's corner is a hill we always avoid, not because it is too hard but the traffic can be nasty - it will be a blast to do it traffic free.

The decent from the top toward Shere is utterly magnificent - again, it will be good to do it traffic free
The biggest hassle at Newlands Corner is the time taken to get through the feed/drinks station. It's carnage! You have to inch round this 50 metre (more?) of loop of crammed together cyclists to get bananas, sports drink, and some quasi-crisps provided by one of the event sponsors. If you can carry your own food, then avoiding stopping here will cut 10 mins off your time.

The descent on the other side is amazingly fast. Huge wide roads. Awesome. Then you have to climb Leith...
 

Stedman

Active Member
Yes, last year it was approximately 104 miles. Cutting the corner brings it down to about 101.5m. Then of course you have the pleasure of cycling to the start, and away from the finish, which adds a few more miles :-)
From my calculations, cutting of Cobham was 5 miles, however I understand that there is a new criterium section in Kingston square but I cannot see this making up much distance. This year I am sure that the 4 hour time will be broken and there will be many PBs because of this!
 
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